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Poppy-burning Muslim protesters mar Armistice Day commemorations as millions fall

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posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by Freeborn
 


But disagreeing to a celebration or moment of silence, which is used by the elite to brainwash the future generation is something more people should do. That disagreement can cause debate, that debate can cause change.


How the hell is it used to brainwash people?

It's a mark of respect, deal with it. A lot of those people who died for you did so with no choice. I understand your rage at war etc, but no need to insult the deaths of the people who died for your freedom.

You're disrespecting the millions of dead, whilst YOU live in our countries, using our benefits, take advantage of our nature, whislt YOU are too cowardly to deal with the backward scum in your own country, yet have the audacity to insult those that are trying to do something.



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:04 PM
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War has no honor, everyone is entitled to their opinions.

Second line.



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:07 PM
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Some of us believe they didn't die for my freedom, or your freedom, some of us believe they died for greed and power.

So am I suppose to give a moment of silence to those who died for greed and power? Not even their own greed, and not even for their own power?

That is like encouraging the future generation to do the same, isn't it?

It is a sham. I mean a shame.



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by mr-lizard
 


Some of us believe they didn't die for my freedom, or your freedom, some of us believe they died for greed and power.

So am I suppose to give a moment of silence to those who died for greed and power? Not even their own greed, and not even for their own power?

That is like encouraging the future generation to do the same, isn't it?


Nope. I've never joined the army, and i protested against the war. Yet i bought a poppy to remember and thank my grandfather and his brothers for defending the Uk against the Nazi's.

Nobody is asking you to give a moments silence since you have no real concept of loyalty or respect. But we're just asking you to respect our ideals here.

Or do you take pleasure siding with terrorists and retarded, backward Islamic types?

I thought YOU hated the Taliban, yet here you are acting like one of them.

Make your mind up Oozy.



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by Fractured.Facade
 


You allude to some sort of impending apocalypse or Armageddon.
I have news for you, people have been predicting this since time immortal, and guess what,


People have. "people"

People have never been closer than they are right now, and have never been so oblivious to their self-generated impending doom.

It is not prediction, or prophecy, but the culmination of thousands of years worth of wasted lives and opportunities to advance beyond hatred and violence.

Enjoy the calm before the real storm comes.

"People" will obviously never change. Humanity is all but a lost cause.



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:23 PM
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ZZZ you don't get it do you, I'm not just concerned about the most recent wars, I'm also concerned about WWI and WWII. I for one believe your grand father didn't die for Britain, I for one believe your grand father died for greed and power. Nazi Germany never invaded UK.

I will repeat, it wasn't his own greed or power, if it was, then it would be great
it was for someone else's greed and power.

I'm sure your grand father had thousands of other qualities which you can stand up for.



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by mr-lizard

Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by mr-lizard
 


OK Mr. Lizard, if you have any sense of humanity, why not tell us how your grand parents who fought in WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Iraq, Iraq again, Afghanistan, Africa etc not tools of war.

Prove to me they weren't tools of war, then i will be happy to agree with you.


No problem then. You continue to call our fallen heroes as tools of war, and i'll start referring to the Afghan people as terrorists.

Deal


Makes me feel less bad every time i hear about a village getting struck by an American drone, because using the same mentality as you, I'll just box them all off as terrorists.



Now your getting somewhere..... Use what they use against you foryour own good... protest them as they protest you and if they bring violence upon YOUR protest then you can be vica versa.



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by oozyism
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ZZZ you don't get it do you, I'm not just concerned about the most recent wars, I'm also concerned about WWI and WWII. I for one believe your grand father didn't die for Britain, I for one believe your grand father died for greed and power. Nazi Germany never invaded UK.


Because we stopped them. The Nazis DID plan on invading, luckily other countries disrupted their plans.



I'm sure your grand father had thousands of other qualities which you can stand up for.


Didn't expect that Oozy, but yes he did. He was a good man.



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by oozyism
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ZZZ you don't get it do you, I'm not just concerned about the most recent wars, I'm also concerned about WWI and WWII. I for one believe your grand father didn't die for Britain, I for one believe your grand father died for greed and power. Nazi Germany never invaded UK.

I will repeat, it wasn't his own greed or power, if it was, then it would be great
it was for someone else's greed and power.

I'm sure your grand father had thousands of other qualities which you can stand up for.


WOW is all I can say.....

What an awful to say about his grandad. You don't even know the man and you are saying he died for our country's greed?

Yes you are right he DID die for greed. He died for the greed of Nazi Germany and Hitler. The greed and lust for power, that would have seen them dominate the world, had people like his grandfather and the others like him not given their lives.

If you cannot see how grateful you should be for this then you Oozy should not be living in this country. Just like those muslims.

Damn sympathisers on here



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:37 PM
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Hitler planned to invade Britain


second



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:39 PM
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What history book are you reading?

Ever heard of the Battle of Britain? Destroy the RAF in a premptive move to invade the country...

Are you even English?



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:40 PM
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Because them 'tools of war' fought for your right to post your constant stream of anti-UK rhetoric free from the fear of retribution.
That all wars are fought for the advantage and purpose of TPTB is beyond question.
But we as a nation said enough is enough and demanded social reform after both World Wars.
And yes, there was several reasons why we fought WWII, but the primary reason was to fight the odious fascist movement.
Perhaps you would have preferred living in a National Socialist society, allthough in your neck of the woods you would be kowtowing to a living Japanese god.
There would be no opportunity to exploit our freedom to show your dislike of those very same freedoms.

But I fear I digress slightly.
We could discuss the causes of both wars and there impact on society and the world forever and it is probably best saved for another time and place.

To disagree with Remembrance Day is one thing.
To openly disrepect it in such a public manner is quite another thing.
It showed nothing but contempt for a society that has welcomed these people with open arms.
And to add insult to injury these people demand total and utter respect for their beliefs and traditions yet offer none back in return.

The kindest words I can use to describe these people is odious hypocrites.

It is another something that has stirred and roused the British spirit and conscience.
They will only be pushed so far.



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by mr-lizard
 


Hitler planned to invade Britain


second


Operation Sealion.

en.wikipedia.org...

The battle of Britain, bombing raids, black outs...

Oozy, no offence but may i ask why you neglected your historical studies? Or did they not teach you about WW2 in school?


edit on 15-11-2010 by mr-lizard because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:44 PM
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The book which says Winners of war write history.

By the way, why was Hitler fighting Britain? Or trying to invade Britain?



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by oozyism
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The book which says Winners of war write history.



So if the Nazis did invade and defeat Britain, they would have written about it.... What's your point? I cannot believe your historical knowledge is so terrible.

We won. We bravely defeated the Nazis. Nothing YOU say can change that, whether you choose to accept it or not.



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:47 PM
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Look it up. You clearly know nothing.

I will ask again are you even English?



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by KingDoey
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Look it up. You clearly know nothing.

I will ask again are you even English?


No he claims to be from Afghanistan, he also claims to have fled the Taliban, but also sticks up for them and condemns anyone who fights the Taliban.

He happily lives in New Zealand, reaping all the benefits, but will quite happily insult any Western ideology.



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:51 PM
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Your from Afghanistan!!!!

Why are you even concerning yourself with this country?!

You have no right to say anything about England or our War dead.

Some of my friends died fighting the taliban (which you fled)! They probably indirectly saved your life and you have the audacity to insult them.

You deserve nothing. You are a joke. I have absolutely nothing to say to you. Do not ever attempt to come to my country.
edit on 15-11-2010 by KingDoey because: That was probably originally racist. Do not want to get banned over some wasteman



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:53 PM
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Those tools of war fought for me? Sorry mate, now you are dreaming, do you know why they feed you with the propaganda of freedom, liberty blabla, that they fought for those causes, it is because that is the same propaganda they feed the soldiers, to brainwash them in to joining the army, once they join the army, then they are stuck, they are chucked in the battle field to kill or be killed, at that point they have no choice to believe what ever crap their government is feeding them, hence believing that you are fighting for freedom and liberty will help you sleep at night.

I mean why would they fight, if they knew the truth? And why would you give them a moment of silence, if you knew the truth.

Winners of war write history, so don't tell me about history regarding a WW, because when a WW ends, the product is a very one sided history.

Anyways, it seems you are trying really hard to picture what kind of a person I'm behind this computer, you're gonna keep failing, unless you wanna come to New Zealand for a visit, then you can get to know the real me



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 01:01 PM
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Why was Britain being bombed ? US has plans to invade every country in this planet, even poor Canada lol, I think that includes Britain, does that mean US will invade Britain?

And yes, winners of war writes history, if Germany won the war, you would have heard the opposite side of the propaganda
I bet Germans would be saying that they were fighting for freedom and liberty




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