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posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 02:39 PM
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Sorry I havent been able to reply to my thread but Ive been doing some digging, to the ATS member who had a earlier thread about this..................Sorry For Stealing your Thunder
I admit I didnt even look to see if someone had posted about this subject.

Its interesting to see the diffrent opinions about this, heres a few of the things Ive found out on the internet

Coffins no???
vantageproducts.com...

Possiable and verified FEMA Camp locations??
www.mindfully.org...

Considering Im in AK this made me do a bit more looking, considering what I already "do" know about AK's area
Ive been in AK off and on since "78", my dad was military and I grew up on Elmendorf AFB and worked on the base a few summers after I was on my own. My dad was an explorer, always willing to drive down a road out in the middle of no where, and considering how open Alaska was at the time, Dad found alot of roads to go down.

In 1980, we were out prospecting North East of the Anchorage area, we drove down a road that seemed to be a mining road, went on for 15 miles till we ran onto a 12ft chain link Barbed top fence with No Trespass Gov'ment warning signs posted every 10 feet. As we looked around a camo truck came over the hill, guy got out and asked us to leave ASAP.

H.A.R.P...... enough said!
Fort Greely.... enough said!
Clear Air Force Base.....enough said!
CIA Motor home broke down in the Glenallen area of Alaska, tow truck drivers not allowed in the motor home to hook upp for towing, had to give directions to CIA Op so the motor home could be towed.

Found 12, 55gal drums labled "Mustard Gas" in a training area on Fort Richardson Army Base.
Military Pilot shoots down wingman in training session over King Salmon training area, pilot has Vietnam flashback.
Top Secret U2 Spy Plane Base on Adak, infiltrated security breach by Black Ops Unit during secret security testing.
NIKE missle Stations in Anchorage
freak.minimanga.com...
www.ktuu.com...

But one thing that happened about 6 months ago was when I was looking into the FEMA camp issue a little, at the time I was learning how to make gun powder for a Frontiersmans group I belong to (have to make your own gun powder) I needed to find saltpeter. I went to the local Target Store and the guy almost freaked out and called the cops on me. So I went to an "out of the way shop", I asked the lady if she had any saltpeter and she showed me a little half ounce bag. I asked her if she had any bigger quantities, she looked at me strange and then came out and asked me straight forward what I needed it for. I told her what I needed it for, she asked me if I was a prepper and I said yes. She said she could get me all I wanted "IF" she could pick my brain about a few things (B.O.B.'s, guns, shooting, auto's). She then asked me my thoughts about the FEMA coffins delivered to Ft. Richards Army Base a few months earlier.

I told her I knew nothing about them,she gave me a run down about it as well as some guy that use to shop at her store. She had a run in with a FEMA Camp employee, at the end of their dicussion, her quote to me about what he said....." he laughs as he said that people from AK are so F'ing stupid, FEMA will starve them out while they transport the ones they arrest in the states up to the Camps here in AK, turns and walks out and hasnt been back since.

So with all this known and a few other things, Im not seeing any reason why this isnt possiable...? So I went looking.............
www.mindfully.org...

I know the Mental Facility they were going to put into place has already been built, but was shut down before the law was put into place Possiable REX 84 Project??.
More then likely Im thinking its in the Fairbanks Area, the one East of Anchorage (Maybe what me and my dad found in "80") is the Wilderness Project??

Right now Im looking at some google earth to see whats changed since Ive been out on Elmendorf, theres a HUGE portion of the base that alot of people dont understand how far back it reaches, plenty of place to build a camp or transport facility.
Our Port has had the largest amount of upgrades over the past few years to bring it up to date as a world class hub, which isnt a big thing know that we truely are a large hub for ship and plane.......HHhhhmmmm

ALASKA

Wilderness - East of Anchorage. No roads, Air & Railroad access only. Estimated capacity of 500,000 Elmendorf AFB - Northeast area of Anchorage - far end of base. Garden Plot facility.

Eielson AFB - Southeast of Fairbanks. Operation Garden Plot facility.

Ft. Wainwright - East of Fairbanks


There are alot of skeptics here and thats fine, but in todays age and all the info you can find out how the Elite Gov'mnt gathering us up I find it hard to think that these "secret" camps dont exist.I think the one out in the open build used are nothing more then a phys Op.......Oohhh look how nice that is, the Gov'mnt gave thosepoor folks a home during troubled times, what I good thing...bla bla bla
Its how the image is delivered to the masses, a compound in the middle if no where with access only from air or rail road isnt going to be a winner to convince the Masses, its not rocket science when it comes to brain washing, if you think diffrent then mybe you should look into Jim Jones and the Cool Aid Guy.

But if you think somethings going on, and you live next to a location, go check it out and see what you can find, nothing like a Road Trip.




posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 02:40 PM
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Sorry, double post
edit on 12-11-2010 by Patrioitinsheepclothing because: double post



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 03:15 PM
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If I had tv I would watch the special show that AJ was obviously promoting!

If you read the 10 page bill ( I assume there's more to come), it creates a place with transportation, medical services, it almost sounds better than what most people have now;



(b) Minimum Requirements- A site designated as a national emergency center shall be-- (1) capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster; (2) environmentally safe and shall not pose a health risk to individuals who may use the center; (3) capable of being scaled up or down to accommodate major disaster preparedness and response drills, operations, and procedures; (4) capable of housing existing permanent structures necessary to meet training and first responders coordination requirements during nondisaster periods; (5) capable of hosting the infrastructure necessary to rapidly adjust to temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance needs; (6) required to consist of a complete operations command center, including 2 state-of-the art command and control centers that will comprise a 24/7 operations watch center as follows: (A) one of the command and control centers shall be in full ready mode; and (B) the other shall be used daily for training; and


This is creepy, especially the stuff about a command center, operations watch and training. But it is real, most people know or just don't want to think they could actually end up in one of those centers. I know they are there and just hope I don't get sent. Let us hope they don't quarantine those that refuse a flu shot during the next alleged pandemic.
edit on 12-11-2010 by BenIndaSun because: Typo



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 03:27 PM
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This could tie in with the military bringing equipment and setting up some sort of bunkers at all the large airports if that was true also. It seems as if they know something is going to happen but don't want to tell for causing panic. Could be a meteor they know will be heading at us or anything.Maybe they have managed to see the future.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by rajaten
What are those black containers for?

They look like ponds for fish or something

Whatever they are for, you can be sure they are not for burying large numbers of people killed by the government.

Murderers remove the evidence, not preserve it.
Once you see bulldozers digging pits and tipping in the lime, then it's time to worry.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 04:46 PM
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are you sure fema camps are not updated prisons ?



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 05:05 PM
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T minus 4 hours. Can't wait!



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 05:10 PM
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The only problem is many of these FEMA camps have barbed wire at the tops of the fences, angled inward! That is to keep people IN. If you don't see anything sinister about that, well, let me know how that works out for ya.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 05:11 PM
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And whoever said that the camps were places people could go in case of an emergency obviously hasn't looked at the prison like camps.

They are made to keep people in.They have play grounds.That means they plan on having kids there.They're making thousands of these coffin like containers and not telling us why.Making prisons with playgrounds and not telling us why.They're moving the "coffins" in mass numbers?I wonder what for.

Those coffins like I said could just be for transporting bodies to the places where they have them disposed of.They're not gonna just incinerate them right there on the street they need an incinerator for that.

I know on new years there will be 1 year left till 2012.The count down will begin and people are going to be running around grabbing their survivor kits.

2012 could be used as a cover up to pull off one of the biggest false flags ever.The Alien invasion,Meteor,sun flare or any one of the hundred possible scenarios.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 06:14 PM
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Well - I'd put up a fence because it would give me a perimeter for defense.

Which considering the number of loonies running around with guns who just vacated cities and thought that they could hunt all year and farmers weren't going to try and shoot them and that will tend to lead to a group of severely lawless brigands with entitlement issues, I'd have to say it is a necessary precaution.

People I would like to make it hard for them to cause problems while giving me a perimeter to pick them off with.
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posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 06:18 PM
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Even if FEMA were & are building camps. What are you going to do about it? Be realistic and spare me the keyboard warrior and hot air speech. Realistically speaking, we can we as ordinary citizens do? If there ever was an attempt at an armed force to 'reclaim' our country from the corrupt, what then?

Say our nation turned into a war zone. You'd have the people that would loot, steal, rape and murder.
You'd also have other citizens fight you thinking the government is right & you're wrong. You'd still have the drug problem and the other problem's people live with. How would YOU rebuild this corrupt government? Could you do a better job?



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 06:52 PM
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It would probably work wonders for the US Government and people's willingness to listen to what it says if it occasionally got the facts right or attempted to tell the truth.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 06:57 PM
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Long time lurker ...finally got an account. But I for one can tell you that FEMA is some of the most unorganized government organizations(like most of the organizations in the US) and a pain in the ass to work for. I highly doubt they could handle a large scale containment of people. Sometimes I think we are giving the government to much credit on what they can and can't pull of.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Aeons
What exactly is your problem with this?
During the Katrina aftermath, I heard interviews with people who apparently were in these camps and their main problem seem to be that someone expected them to clean up after themselves and make their bed.

Some of them seemed to actually have a problem with being asked to leave.

Is it just that your level of paranoia makes it so that you would prefer no government ever plan for any problem? You'd prefer to just think that in a disaster with lots of bodies that you'd rather just ignore them? Leave them to rot in place?

I don't understand something about your concerns.


The problem is that they built your prison with your money. They built the extermination camps with your money. And they will herd you into them with YOUR MONEY!
Also, that is the very arguement people made to keep slavery (not calling you prejudice, please follow train of thought here first) by saying Oh they have a grand time, see they sing songs. Those songs were codes for telling where the master was so they could escape. They weren't having fun.
Also its nice you mentioned this little tidbit - what camp held Katrina victims and when were they released?
I often said many of them vanished - still unsolved to this day so really if you know something we don't, it would be nice of you to spill it.
Now about govt planning for disaster. Since when does a government plan to stop its citizens from crossing a border into another state in order to avoid catastrophe? Have you even read their plan? They are stopping migration FROM the US not INTO the US. If the Mexicans want to leave, why not? If we want to leave, why not?
The people who don't know what's going on don't read these mandates. I know they are long and boring, but you need to read people.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 07:44 PM
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Wow and more wow but I have a good question and please reply to post and U2U as I'm not on as much as others:
Did anyone mention pole shift? Are those mostly enturnment camps or rehabilitation (ha) camps? What is the skuttlebutt up there about villages vanishing?
The brasiness of the guy that came into the shop is typical of their attitudes now because they think they are close to the end of this and will get their way. But they screwed China and they are pissed. Also, they haven't decided who to hand all of this too - NWO has to have a dictator and unless its a robot, it will have a color and nationality. And no, just like in the movie "Trading Places" I doubt they will give the reigns to Obama.
Please reply.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 07:46 PM
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Please go sit in the corner and save on your carbon footprint and dont speak!!! If you really have to ask a question like that, then you havent done enough reading about whats going on to make a remark.
Im sure your just waiting for the great one to come and save us, or your just a troll, regardless...... from what Ive seen of this website, it isnt here for us to just sit and wait for us to read and remake on whats fed to us by our Gov'mnt run Corp Media
.I see people here with many diffrent strokes in life,who share like minded thoughts, but if your head is so far up your arse, maybe you should leave the adults to talk and you go back to the kiddi table and drink a the warm cool aid.
Maybe your OK with turning a blind eye to all this and not "Questioning" your Gov'mnt, but its about time people shared more of what they see and hear, if not do for our Gov'mnt.'s
Its time alot of those men and women who did black bag jobs or Covert Op's came clean and we got a real idea of what our Gov'mnts have done over the past 100 years.

As far as what "Im" going to do if I find a FEMA Camp or Boogy mans underground bunker??
Well, Im miles ahead of you in the plan to survive and live free, till its my time to go. Thats the great freedom about this country if you forgot, think freely, openly, and "Independently"




posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 07:48 PM
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Im sorry, I havent heard anything about Pole Shifting, care to share more and enlighten us with what you know about it??



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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Okay I'll weigh in here
I can fully believe in the Nazi-esque plans to corral and control and eliminate millions of citizens,
Germany did it Russia did/does it? China does
so it is the policy of totalitarian govts everywhere throughout time (Rome)
however
all these things require a very centralized control and our so called gov't doesn't have it
the bureaucracy is so so corrupt and and to a large extent privatized they'll simply never get this plan off the ground . It's a big scam ,is what I'm saying .

most of these so called camps and holding facilities/prisons are simply a private prison companies 'contract' made not to actually perform a task or service but simply to receive gov't contract money .

I'm going with if there is a plague or Marshall law these camps will remain empty
all we have here is fraud . I think?
seeing this countries disaster preparedness plans so far ,makes me feel pretty safe



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 08:38 PM
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Fema camps: of course, they exist with or without acknowledgment. Unfortunately, hysteria breeds ignorance about the these camps. Has anyone been connected to their community?

Homeless families and shelters...Not enough jobs to support families and not enough rentals to take in the multitude of homeless families. The original intent of the EMA shelters was to provide temporary lodging to dispalced familes in the event of an environmental disaster. Bush is the one that got spanked over Katrina and this is the result. However, I did hear that a secret vote is ging to go through congress with the new Republicans in office to open the doors to homeless families that suffered from the ARM collapse. I am a landlord and for the first time in my history, my building is full and people are not wanting to leave! I get calls all the time from government welfare places asking if I have an apartment available. My buddy with a bigger complex has the same things going on. Full units...nothing available. Yet I look around town and see massive numbers of empty houses. Doesn't make sense to me but who am I to complain? My units are full and the government is paying their rents!

This is where it gets fuzzy. The FEMA "homeless shelters" sort of look like concentration camps, don't they? Should we be worried that the WORLD people in power are going to decide who gets to live and who MUST die? Doesn't this sort of thing fall into the category or the "ends justify the means" type of thing?

We are heading to a world wide economic meltdown. By the way, that is not a prediction because the balls are rolling! I don't remember a Democrat congress ever initating a war to get re-elected but I know several Republican congressman that did and we just put them all in office. "Here is your sign!" --Bill Engvall.

One must ask if we are preparing for the economic meltdown or are we preparing for war? Fema camps are very real but the purpose of these camps has not been truthfully declared. If they are for the homeless ARM rejects then why are the ARM rejects still trying to find shelter?



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