De-Facto State of War: US vs China

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posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 02:52 AM
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Ladies and Gentlemen

I have come to a new conclusion
and it's quite worse than this thread
scenario might reveal.

I believe the US Military is in a defacto
state of war with the Chinese Military.
And I believe this has not just started
with this missile event but rather a long while
back. A tit for tat exchange between
the US and China with Black Ops
and covert sabotage objectives on
both sides.

Remember, the sinking of the SK vessel Cheneon
and it was blamed on NK. It was the Chinese
sub and torpedo.

The Gulf Oil Spill?
Attack by Chinese sub and torpedo

The Chinese Oil spill that followed
was in retaliation by the US. US Sub
and torpedo

The Japanese freighter that was hit
in the side but didn't sink was a torpedo
that never armed itself before striking
the ship so when it hit, it just rammed it
only the torpedo sunk but it caused lots
of internal damage. I believe oil was on that freighter
if I'm not mistaken.

US Missiles launched from Louisiana
and Arizona in the past month.

China shoots down own satellite to
show capabilities.

Bernake dumps $600B on US Treasury Bonds
to devalue the US Dollar which China holds
more notes than any nation including the
US. A US monetary attack on China's
Financial Markets.

A Carnival Cruise lines ship is EMP bombed
off Mexican coast. Also a Chinese attack by a submarine
missile.

The outgoing missile 2 days ago off Los Angeles
was one of ours trying to kill the Chinese Sub
that EMP'd the Carnival Splendor.

A boat sinks with 55,000 tons
of Nickel onboard headed to China
in last 12 hrs. A US response.
Metals is a Chinese asset.

meanwhile both sides play dumb to
the public. it's a virtual tit for tat war.
This is why you won't hear our military
claim it was a missile. How can they
tell the public we launched at a Chinese
Sub without telling you about all the other
events which led them to this point.
Sure, it was a plane and contrail


Speaking of contrails, now I understand why
those CHEMTRAILS are being sprayed.
Chinese radar works by using the ionosphere
to bounce the waves off of to see and target
objects that are out of line of sight. Spraying
aluminum and Barium into the atmosphere
jams the Chinese radar from locking onto
those long distance targets. It disrupts the
bounce off the ionosphere and there's no
positive return.

Too many coincidences to be ALL
accidents.

When a strike kills a LOT of people
on 1 side, I expect ICBM's on both
sides to be flying.

of course, this is just my theory

but it makes perfect sense for all these
events making the news.

Welcome to WW3 !!!!
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posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:01 AM
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They probably weren't too happy about receiving those gold plated tungsten bars either...

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:03 AM
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Dear Boondock-Saint,
Interesting theory, nice factual base for your thoughts. I do however think you are far off the mark. The United Kingdom prime minister is visiting China for trade agreements. I don't think the representative for America's strongest ally would be visiting China if there were a state of de-facto war in place.

Do you?

Regards,
T



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:03 AM
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reply to post by boondock-saint
 


Call of Duty 7 lately?
No?



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:04 AM
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reply to post by NuclearPaul
 

correct u r
u can add that to the list of tit for tat
exchanges

and thanks for pointing that out



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by torqpoc
Dear Boondock-Saint,
Interesting theory, nice factual base for your thoughts. I do however think you are far off the mark. The United Kingdom prime minister is visiting China for trade agreements. I don't think the representative for America's strongest ally would be visiting China if there were a state of de-facto war in place.

Do you?

Regards,
T


trade agreement talks are a perfect cover
for a 3rd party mediator to discuss options
on a ceasefire.



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:09 AM
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both sides cannot go on hiding
this from the public view as we just
noticed with the missile launch
off LA.



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:12 AM
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I certainly feel a change has happned (in policy) the open use of certain words like currency "war" (UK PM going into G20) speaks volumes to me especailly as he has just returned from a visit to China,

And the use of words for me marries into what you are saying, tho I am unsure that military action has got to the point of taking lives on either side.. I am however not sure how far short of that we really are.

But there is certainly a change on the global scene and the dark shadow of militaries testing each others capabilities seems to becoming more prominent, with other nations (UK/France) joining their militaries which in turn creates the foundation for an EU Army.

It seems to me we might be in for an unpleasent ride ahead.



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:18 AM
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this would be the bigger picture
we have not put together yet cuz
we're only seeing lots of lil events
which seem like they do not
correspond to each other.
But when you connect the dots,
WOW !!!



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:21 AM
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Originally posted by 123321
reply to post by boondock-saint
 


Call of Duty 7 lately?
No?

don't think I've ever played
COD. My eyes aren't that
good remember?



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:21 AM
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Okie dokie. I have some doubts, and I think this might be just a bit of paranoia. I hope i'm right and you're wrong, otherwise the consequences would be terrible if war did break out between China and the West. I doubt we would win that fight. I also think the financial implications could be disastrous, that alone makes me think this is all conjecture and paranoia.

Time for a cup of tea and a chill pill methinks.

Regards,
T



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:22 AM
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you stated the chem trail defense system. that assuredly is not the case, because satellite systems can penetrate the ionosphere, and radio systems require the ionosphere in order to operate accordingly, and as we see, long range radio systems still work just fine. if the ionosphere was blocked out, we would have no communications, or at the best, highly disrupted unintelligible EM signals, such as you notice with heavy cloud cover and thunderstorms- unless it was all fiber optic, and satellite is not fiber optic. plus the ionosphere is 45+ km above the surface of the earth. i think the highest that planes fly are around 9 miles or about 14.5 km high. the barium ions would have to be released quite near either the uplink or the downlink sites if it were to have any effect on radio transmissions.


EDIT:

Also, i don't think we send missiles into the air to destroy submarines under water.
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posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:28 AM
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I don't think this is too far fetched. Perhaps not all of those events, but if we don't do something soon it will be exactly like you have described.

the2ofusr1 posted this vid on my Gold Rush 21 thread:


So there is a war going on right now, a very significant one which has the potential to lead to military action like you have suggested.

S&F



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:35 AM
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You mention an EMP attack on the Carnival Splendor to disable her. Do you know what an EMP attack would have done to all electronics on the ship if this was the case?
Including cellphones?
It has been mentioned in some news articles, that as they were approaching San Diego under tow, passengers were starting to get cell phone comms again. |This indicates that their cellphones were not fried hence no EMP attack took place).



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:38 AM
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The SUBROC anti-submarine system does exactly that:


SUBROC could be launched from a 21 inch submarine torpedo tube. After launch, the solid fuel rocket motor fires and SUBROC rises to the surface. The launch angle then changes and SUBROC flies to its destination following a predetermined ballistic trajectory. At a predetermined time in the trajectory, the reentry vehicle (containing the warhead) separates from the solid fuel motor. The warhead, a W55 5 kiloton nuclear depth bomb, drops into the water, sinking rapidly before exploding in proximity to its target. A direct hit was not necessary.


subroc link



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:39 AM
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Originally posted by asperetty
Also, i don't think we send missiles into the air to destroy submarines under water

sure we do,
say hello to Lockheed Martin


www.lockheedmartin.com...



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:43 AM
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Originally posted by deltaalphanovember
You mention an EMP attack on the Carnival Splendor to disable her. Do you know what an EMP attack would have done to all electronics on the ship if this was the case?
Including cellphones?
It has been mentioned in some news articles, that as they were approaching San Diego under tow, passengers were starting to get cell phone comms again. |This indicates that their cellphones were not fried hence no EMP attack took place).

well maybe not all of these events
were contrived by the Chinese or
Americans. But I'm sure there are
also some ones we know nothing
about as well. We just hear about
the big stuff. And it's just a theory.
It may not be perfected yet, but it would
appear close in it's scope.



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:46 AM
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here we are harkening back to the 'Cold War'...and that gov't instilled mindset that we are at virtual war

what the USA leadership today is trying to create is a China-American schism, 'we' are the ones
initiating the financial war not them... China is just pointing out the duplicity of the USA...
the USA is trying to rationalize to the G-20 that the inadvertant debasing of the USD
is the only way to help the world economy recover....

~got your dairy barn rubber boots on ? ~ the stuff is getting deep !



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:52 AM
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reply to post by beebs
 

beebs
star for u
great video post
I had not seen that one.



posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 03:55 AM
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Originally posted by St Udio
here we are harkening back to the 'Cold War'...and that gov't instilled mindset that we are at virtual war
what the USA leadership today is trying to create is a China-American schism, 'we' are the ones
initiating the financial war not them... China is just pointing out the duplicity of the USA...
the USA is trying to rationalize to the G-20 that the inadvertant debasing of the USD
is the only way to help the world economy recover....
~got your dairy barn rubber boots on ? ~ the stuff is getting deep !

wow, absolutely brilliant post.
I agree 110%
and ur right
Bernake and the FED and IMF
is attacking China with
financial attacks. I believe the
only reason why China has not
completely pulled the rug out yet
is because they feel empathy for
the American people who had
nothing to do with this !!!!
Americans are stuck in the
middle.
edit on 11/11/2010 by boondock-saint because: (no reason given)





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