If SHTF, this is the gun I would bring, page 5


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reply posted on 21-4-2011 @ 02:02 AM by TraptInTheSystem
reply to post by RedBird



Ahh the Mosin Nagant. While not pretty it will get the job done. My friend has one and it is about as simple as it gets. The round is also cheap and reliable.


reply posted on 26-5-2011 @ 08:14 AM by bohica12b
I see a lot of well thought out answers, some not-so. To quote the Marine Corps, "I am the weapon, everything else is merely a tool." Talk of silencing weapons are 'Hollywood'. A single shot from a firearm should not give away your position unless you are in very close proximity of the enemy. I have read people claiming to use military caliber weapons because they will 'get ammo' from whatever they think will be available from others.
I am going with a muzzle loader .50 caliber, for hunting, to be exact. If I run out of commercial powder, I can make a form of black-powder; the military teaches you some of the coolest stuff. I can recover most of my ammo from the animal I harvest and re-cast it.
If you want a silent weapon, use a bow, crossbow, sling-shot. Trapping is a low-calorie, silent, and easily modified to the largest and most dangerous 'animals'.
If you are talking personal defense weapons, go for something that will mesh with your style of defense/offense, i.e. an assault rifle for assaulting, a hand gun for back-up (remember, you use a handgun not because it's better than a rifle, you use it because you can't use your rifle for some reason, like CCW), a shotgun for short range defense, rarely offensive unless you are trained that way. As a PDW, I chose a Krinkov, for price, cost of ammo, high-capacity mag, and conceal-ability (yes, it can be well hidden in a top-coat or 3/4 length jacket, just ask any Russian bodyguard). For home defense, I use it, and a Mossberg 590A1.


reply posted on 31-5-2011 @ 04:16 PM by downtown436
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask



The thing is, a Mosin is less than 100 bucks. I got a lot of ammo for mine when it was 40$ for 440 rounds loaded with heavy bullets(I think they are 200 gr.)

Anyway, so you use it till you run out of ammo, and throw it away. If you survived any gun fights, you collected more guns anyway.


reply posted on 1-6-2011 @ 09:09 PM by allenidaho
There is nothing wrong with using a Mosin Nagant. It is a common misconception that ammunition would be all that scarce. But that just means you aren't looking in the right places. Sure, you probably aren't going to see 7.62x54 rounds gracing the shelves at your local walmart. And you most likely aren't going to see all that many people using something in that particular caliber in a SHTF scenario.

However, the ammunition is all around you. For example, around where I live, there are a handful of pawn shops and gun shops. Of these, about 4 of them usually have Mosin Nagants on display. You know what else they have? Several boxes of ammunition for those rifles.

And then there is the collector factor. A surprising number of people purchase this rifle every year. And when they do, they also buy ammunition for it. Even though it most likely wouldn't be their first choice in a defensive weapon, they still have it around.

Personally, I'm more of a semi-auto kind of guy. I use a springfield M1A which fires a .308 and uses 20-round mags. It's heavy, it kicks like a mule, but it gets the job done and is always on target. I love it.

I used to use an SKS as well. The 10-round internal mag wasn't sufficient so it was modified to fire 30-round AK mags. However, it was fairly common to get stovepipe jams. They take seconds to fix but are still annoying.

But after selling the SKS and moving up to an AK-47, no more jams. Nothing but reliable shooting in 7.62x39. It has the same range as an AR-15 but is just slightly heavier. I replaced the wooden furniture on mine with a quad-rail and a 6-point collapsible stock so it has pretty much the same functionality as an AR-15 but with a better gas system in my opinion.


reply posted on 8-6-2011 @ 03:39 PM by deesul69
reply to post by allenidaho



How long ago did you modify your SKS?

I just use the Tapco 20 rd mags and they work perfect.


reply posted on 8-6-2011 @ 08:50 PM by deesul69
reply to post by allenidaho



I have a norinco sks as well.

I mean use the Tapco magazines that are a direct replacement for the SKS. No modification necessary. Just remove the original 10 round mag and you can remove and insert the tapco's similar to an AK.

That's why I was asking how long ago it was, because they might not have been available then.


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