I'm an american and I have lots of friends (well maybe 2 or 3) and some family members in Iraq and Afghanistan. On facebook I'm constantly seeing posts of people asking for donations so they can send care packages to the troops over there. The main thing they always push is, "you can be anti-war, but you can still support the troops!"

To me this seems sort of illogical, for if there were no troops over there, there would be no war yeah? I realize that most signed up with good intentions and are products of good brainwashing from the MSM. Even so, the thought of making their lives easier over there as they kill innocent people makes me cringe.

Thoughts?

I can see your dilemma, and all I can tell you is do what you feel is right.

Personally, I support the troops after theyve come home, and support the VA, veterans outreach, etc, but I dont approve of them killing people in another land, so I wont send lettters or care packages.

As sad as it is to say, a lot of the young lads in the army (obviously not all of them) join because its all they can do. A good friend of mine joined the MoD after getting rejected for numerous jobs. I think it would be safe to say that not all of the soldiers want to go to war.

The army is an easy option for a career over here, especially as jobs are so hard to come by if you haven't a lot of qualifications. Unfortunately the soldiers aren't the people who decide who we go to war with. They do their job.

No army, no counrty. I dont condone war under any circumstances but i will support any soldier who fights for me and my family.

Here is my take... one of the biggest things you can do to support the troops is be anti-war. Do you really think any of our troops want to be over their fighting and dying. Being anti-war saves the lives of countless human beings are troops included. What better gift could you possibly give our troops than by ending wars and giving them their lives back.

The common soldier does his/her duty, it's the politicians who start the wars. I see no conflict. A soldier trains for battle but prays for peace. Support them, help them and pray for them.

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OP, I'm right there with you.

A friend on facebook posted a copy-paste support the troops thing, so I replied to the post.

She then continues to go on that she doesn't approve of what they are doing, but she supports the troops for what they believe in.

You don't support a d*mn kid for trying to get into the cookie jar when you told him not to.

It WAS their choice to go to war, there is no draft. Our military is made of entirely of people who have contracted to go to war. You can't blame the politicians for holding the guns.

A good reason to support the troops is the hippocracy in which we live in.



I don't agree with the wars but I do sympathize with the ones who ignorantly signed up based on old ideas of why its good to serve your country.
That was then...this is now.
These days you don't serve your country...you serve the corporations and for that I feel sorry for them being duped based on how things SHOULD be.

I have said it before and will say it again.

IF THEY WERE GOOD ENOUGH TO SERVE ON THE FRONTLINES THEN THEY SHOULD BE GOOD ENOUGH TO BE OUR FIRST PRIORITY WHEN THEY GET BACK.
That picture above illustrates my point.

It's pretty easy. I support the troops and the ever-important role they play. They are key to defending our nation.

That being said, I do not support an empire-building war that takes our troops off to die for no noble reason whatsoever.

I support the troops, who doesn't? I do not support the war, who would? Those that support the war have some serious soul-searching to do. Big difference!

The problem I have is this. The war(s) are not justified.
We are attacking the people of other countries without provocation. We are killing many innocent people including children.
This is wrong. We are already supporting the troops, you and I, by funding them. This is involuntary on our part, we don't have a choice. We do have a choice in telling kids that it is wrong, and if you go, don't look for sympathy along with that paycheck.
This is all a propaganda campaign to tug on your emotions, when these warmongers really have NO emotional attachment to the troops. Notice how they treat vets.
A soldier that kills an innocent person overseas, will kill an innocent person at home, if there is a paycheck involved. That is certainly how it appears to me.

It's politically incorrect not to support the troops. Personally, I DONT support the troops. I dont hate them, dont think we should spit on them, but i definitely don't support their mission and i definitely dont consider them heroes, especially if they joined post-2003.

the whole thing about 'support the troops but not the war' is just conservative nationalist propaganda that about 3/4 of americans are stupid enough to buy into.

Originally posted by aching_knuckles
I can see your dilemma, and all I can tell you is do what you feel is right.

Personally, I support the troops after theyve come home, and support the VA, veterans outreach, etc, but I dont approve of them killing people in another land, so I wont send lettters or care packages.

yes. i support them as HUMAN BEINGS, but not as soldiers. i feel really sorry for them, many of them actually think they're fighting to protect ME. that is so tragic that it's not true.

"The pioneers of a warless world are the youth that refuse military service." -Albert Einstein

i think that quote pretty much sums is up.
it is illogical to be anti-war and support the troops. no troops=no war... unless of course those who start the wars would like to go out and do their dirty work themselves but we all know thats unlikely.

That always made me curious, too, especially at the peak of the Iraq war under Bush in the early/mid 2000's. It just made no sense to see so much anti-war sentiments attached to the 'support the troops' mentality. Especially when it would come from the same mouths.

From what I eventually gathered (although I may be wrong) is to prevent a Vietnam repeat. In other words, the anti war protesters would spit on returning Vets and what not after returning from Vietnam. Therefore the whole 'Oppose the war, support the troops' doublespeak became a way to prevent attacks on US soldiers in Iraq instead of the government pushing for involvement in Iraq.

It still made no sense but that is the way I ended up seeing it.