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Originally posted by hawkiye
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
reply to post by hawkiye
You start off by saying you know it's just a facade, and then degenerate into the "socialist" rant. That shows you do not get the picture.
What is being said is we can have a 100% Conservative government and we'll still have socialist things happening, while we can have a 100% Liberal government and have things Conservatives would want.
There are no socialist and capitalists which matter anymore, it's all corporation. When more people like you get this in their heads we can begin somewhere.
Thanks for the laugh looks like I hit a nerve with you...Sigh. Look up some of my post and you will see how ridiculous your statement about me is. I am not against social programs as long as they are funded voluntarily. Recognizing forced socialism is wrong does not degrade the discussion. My point was there are plenty of avowed socialist even here and they are so caught up in thier belief that government should force it they are worthless to try and work together with because these differences are exploited by said government and corporations and they will listen to nothing else.
That fact that you dismiss it as something not worth pointing out shows that it is most likely you who doesn't get it.edit on 10-11-2010 by hawkiye because: (no reason given)
You still don't get it. This thread is about the illusion that people have brought into of two political parties. You agree with the OP statements. THEN you participate in the very thing the OP says is happening to us. Why are you still SEPARATING people with your scope on socialism? You are merely continuing the illusion that tptb want....socialism vs conservatism. I subscribe to neither and both at the same time. I realize that neither ideology is the reason for the hard times we've fallen into. Where did I advocate for socialism? Why was the word socialism anywhere in your reply?
Originally posted by thecinic
Your right but we still need to vote.... Even if we understand the left and right are just two faces in one, we still need to vote on who we think will be the better of the two evils. Even being woken up to the fact you can vote libertarian, or support SOMEBODY, someone is still making the laws and we need to have caution who is putting these laws into place... Just look at the war started with bush the dems backed him 100% i'm not dumb i see right through it I hope MOST people do. Still you need to figure out who you can vote for that holds your view points and values the best who you think can still do a little good.