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The Left Right Paradigm is OVER... It's now You vs The Corporations

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posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 09:20 PM
I must respectfully disagree. It`s not the corporations, the right or left running the show. It`s acctually a parnership of sorts between the very richest of international Bankers and the Military Cult. There has not been a real election in the US for a very long time. Believe it or not, the elections ARE fixed and the President is just a PR guy. It doesn`t sound right, but that is the way it is.Those who control the money and tech/weapons rule the world. It`s simple, I don`t get, why people can`t wrap their heads arround that?

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 09:23 PM
reply to post by SunnyDee

This is the problem a multinational was doing that to me and I quit!

It is people that are the problem. People working themselves like slaves. People convinced that they should be thankful just to have a job.

People scared, actually petrified to go out and get what they deserve. Do something they love.


Because they have been trapped by the fictional American dream. People trapped by their lust to consume, keep up with the joneses and overextend themselves.

Do you really need all those items or are they the bars of your prison cell?

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 09:25 PM
You are correct. Every time legislation is introduced, its for the benefit of gov't or corporations. Never for the citizens.

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 09:26 PM
It took people this long to realize that the supreme court deciding corporations count as citizens is a major flaw in the system? :facepalm:

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 09:27 PM
Actually, it's

You vs. Everyone Else.

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 09:28 PM
reply to post by TheBandit795

Man I tell this to people everyday. Everytime someone complains. It's all in your grasp once you understand it's all corporations. You know how you bring down corporations and in turn government itself. Realize that everything revolves around a strawman and start using the same loppholes they use. Taxes, sure it's a hard fight, but they're fake and you could win and not pay, espeacially if you been paying em. Debt, fake and it's a lot easier to get rid of then taxes. Please just go to and look up The Strawman Illusion. I promise if you sit through it spells out why in fact the whole conspiracy theory is correct. Because with the proper knowledge all of us could easily stop the machine. The question is ARE YOU GUYS READY FOR THAT?

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 09:29 PM
It's been so long since this country has seen poverty, our youth have become willing slaves who think the government can just print money. Only when this house of cards collapses and it takes a weeks pay to buy food for a couple of days will they wake up; it will be too late then.

All it's taken to do this is two entitlement generations in a row.

I've posted this before. It was submitted to Congress in 1963. It came from the Communist (Socialist) Party. (Mod's this is part of the Congressional Record so no copyright worries)

"Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963


Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike."

My own Father handed a copy of this too me in about 1965 and asked me to read it and remember it. He was sure I would see this happen in my lifetime. It's happening right now, exactly as planned.

Whenever you see Leaders who call themselves Progressives and cite people like Saul Alinsky as Obama has done and taught to his students in school, they believe in this and this is their blueprint of how to get what they want. They want us to fail and for everyone but those in their elite group to suffer while they live like the Royals they think they are. Why do you think Obama is hiding all his academic work from us, even his Thesis? We would not even know he taught Alinsky in his classes if not for one little video clip of him teaching it.

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 09:33 PM
Obamacare? Romneycare? What!!

Thought this article was relevant to the thread. It definitely backs up the claim that there is no difference between red and blue, it's all purple! Like a bruise.....

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 09:42 PM
The whole "left/right" paradigm has been used to control the populace. And the real problem isn't the 'controllers' so much as the 'controlled'. believe me, I've been trying for years. You have to become comfortable with the fact that the large majority of humans are terrified by the concept of REAL freedom. They love to yell at the top of their lungs about socialist presidents or tea baggers but will never listen if you try to reason with them about how we are far more an oligarchic feudalistic society than anything resembling a republic or a democracy The thing that sucks for those of us that see, but aren't of the elite class, is that we have to either figure a way to join the elite or a way to avoid the culling that is coming.

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 09:48 PM
What's incredible given the current Corporate attitude of "our profit margins are so thin we have no choice but to cut back on your benefits, but if your quotas rise by 10% you might get a shot at a raise next year!". How can they tell the workers they can't afford raises or benefits?

How did Corporations ever afford to pay workers a living wage, medical insurance for families, 2 weeks vacation time, sick days, personal days, company events, and more? Consistently, no less!

Yet over the last 50 years the salaries of CEO's and upper management have commonly risen by THOUSANDS of percent while workers salaries have experienced NEGATIVE growth.

Companies still make the same profits they always have but they are paying the higher ups a greater and greater proportion of the operational expenses,

How did it get this way? There is a corresponding rise between the loss of union memberships and worker compensation.
The PTB bought off the unions and intentionally destroyed them while staging a long propaganda campaign to malign unions in the public eye.
Government unions are doing fine however having grown large enough to lobby their interests through.
No one represents the worker and subsequently the middle class has no representation in the Congress.
We The People has come to be We The Moneyed People.

This reminds me of the Raft of the Medusa:

In 1816, the ship Medusa set said to the Senegalese port of Saint-Louis, which had been given to the French by the British as a show of good faith to the reinstated French king, Louis XVIII.
The ship held nearly 400 people, including the new governor of Senegal and his soldiers and 160 crew members. The captain, De Chaumereys was a 53 year-old man who had not been to sea in twenty-five years and had never commanded a ship before. Wanting to make good time, the Medusa stuck close to the African shoreline and inevitably hit a sandbar. Attempts were made to throw overboard extra weight in the hope of raising the ship out of the muck and floating out with the tide, but de Chaumereys wouldn’t allow the crew to get rid of the cannons for fear of angering his constituents ("corporate backers") back in France. Eventually, everyone was forced to abandon ship.
The wealthy and well connected were given space on the lifeboats while the rest, 149 people, were forced onto a makeshift raft which was tied by a rope to one of the lifeboats. At some point, the raft was either intentionally or accidentally cut loose.
What followed was a two week nightmare of stormy seas, brutal murders, insanity and cannibalism. The strong ate the weak. Just fifteen men survived the ordeal, and five of them died shortly after their rescue. The tragedy became a major news event and scandal of its day. De Chaumereys was court-martialed, then acquitted because the French feared ridicule from the British for putting de Chaumereys in charge in the first place.

Sounds like today, doesn't it? Corporation sends a boat on a mission, demands they go too fast, wrecks ship in process (Macondo anyone?), the management gets away safely (golden paracbutes) while the deck hands and commoners floating behind ultimately die fighting each other for scraps. (today, we rarely die of it but usually become government dependents through unemployment and food stamps)
In the end the Captain gets away (Ken Lay or entire Bush cabinet) with a slap on the wrist with some lame-ass legalese mumbo-jumbo to justify it to the public.

For a while I could have sworn the middle class actually existed.
It seemed so real.

People need to face up the fact that Fascism didn't die with the Third Reich
It spread out after the war through Project paperclip, the creation of the CIA/National intelligence Act of 1947/NASA/Defense industries/Big Pharma et al, funded by money stolen by the Nazis and funneled through Switzerland and the Vatican Bank.

The Nazi movement never died.
It went underground, grew stonger, and NOW RULES.
Corporate rule is Fascism by definition.
So which Fascists have taken control?

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posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 09:50 PM
The Supreme courts reversed ruling that removed limits on corporate and labor union donations should tell you who's pulling the strings in Washington. The only reason campaign finance reform hasn't been passed is because both sides don't want to lose their funding from corporations. Without corporate funding, incumbents will lose elections more often. No longer would we have career politicians. I never trusted both parties and I don't trust the tea party either. They're being funded by wealthy republicans and corporations (Kotch Industries, Scaife Foundation, the Lambe Foundation not to mention millions of dollars of donations by donors who want to remain anonymous).
The elite of this country and corporations want to control any candidate in this corrupt party system. The party system has to be eliminated.

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 09:58 PM
reply to post by TheBandit795

I agree government is government. The left and the right are the same thing in a different suit. The corporations is what drives this madness.

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Darkmask
I must respectfully disagree. It`s not the corporations, the right or left running the show. It`s acctually a parnership of sorts between the very richest of international Bankers and the Military Cult. There has not been a real election in the US for a very long time. Believe it or not, the elections ARE fixed and the President is just a PR guy. It doesn`t sound right, but that is the way it is.Those who control the money and tech/weapons rule the world. It`s simple, I don`t get, why people can`t wrap their heads arround that?

Agreed, but the the Federal Reserve is itself a corporation too...a private company. But yes, let's put general corporations as the second tier under the large investment banks. The military is just a tool like you and I that can be called upon at will because we are owned by the system.

In 1976 there was a movie made called "Network", that spelled things out. I saw it but was too young to fully comprehend what was put forth in that scene.

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posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 10:22 PM

Originally posted by gator1177
Obamacare? Romneycare? What!!

Thought this article was relevant to the thread. It definitely backs up the claim that there is no difference between red and blue, it's all purple! Like a bruise.....


Romney has other issues as well which put him firmly in what was the "Red" camp when I was growing up, but has been recently (around year 2000) changed to the "Blue" camp to further confuse the issue. The professed political leanings (note that I said "professed") haven't changed, but for some odd reason the color scheme did. "now "Red" is "Blue", and vice versa, which to me is no different than calling what is "black" now "white", and vice versa. Although I believe that color-scheme change was intended to confuse, it's actually what clued me in that something was definitely amiss in this "left/right paradigm". Although he markets himself as such, Romney is "conservative" in the same sense that Lenin supported the Czar of Russia.

And that is exactly the crux of the issue. What these politicians are now marketing themselves as has no bearing on the reality of what they do in DC. There is a disconnect. They no longer listen to, or care about, the people who allegedly voted them in. They have other Masters who care nary a whit about what branding or marketing strategy the politicians use to sell themselves to the masses, just as long as that politician does the Master's bidding once in office.

That bidding HAS no "left" or "right". It only has a bottom line.

The last two paragraphs in that news story say all that I need to know about "Romney/Obamacare":

To the insurance industry group Wednesday, he stressed the opportunities of health overhaul for new customers. The law is expected to expand coverage to 32 million Americans who now are uninsured.

"Thirty-two million new customers. Everybody has to buy the product and many of them come with subsidies," Ario said. "I really just don't know what's not to like in that for you guys. It's a pretty big opportunity."

There you have it, straight from the horse's mouth.

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 10:43 PM
left/right/corporations/unions = all the same thing.
Everybody is looking for someone to blame.
All those things are made up of people.
Looking for someone to blame? Look in a mirror.
Do you own any stock? Maybe via a 401k? Ever vote that stock?
Do you vote in regular elections normally? The turn out for elections is pitiful.
As for high executive salaries go to movies or sports events? You support ridiculous salaries for actors and players, stuff like that goes up the corp guys want their share too.
Just say no!

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 11:45 PM
The left the right, wrong and right, good and evil, justice and injustice. You throw a third equation into any paradigm and most people won't know how to react because since upbringing it's always been about 2 sides. The third in an intangible force that THEY don't want light shed upon. Control from two well established fronts is easy when they both play ball with the one force controlling. The 3rd force which tries to bring light the wrongs from the establishment is almost certain to fail due to the might of weight already controlled.

Our leaders that set up ole USA, now (Unites State Corporation), where modern day Libertarians. Small government, controlled spending by the people for the people, individual rights.Only one I see now who shares those beliefs are Ron Paul, and that alien dude with that HOT wife (Dennis Kuchinuch?). Guess that's two, not sure about Dennis K. Still awaiting his legal Visa.

I fear we're already doomed, the next great collapse of a once highly idolized society that's been crippled, by greed for more greed. We need less Gecko's, and more Gaundi's.

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 11:47 PM
Those damned corporations... providing me with goods I buy. It's slavery, I tell ya, slavery. If only there was a way to not give them money...?

Another thing big corporations love is big government, because then they can get a monopoly.

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 11:50 PM
reply to post by TheBandit795

Left? Right? Smoke? Mirrors? It's now Of the People, By the Government, For the Corporations. And what's with all the Homeland Security and TSA and NSA and FBI crap checking out our own citizens? Why would government be acting so paranoid? Simple. They are misbehaving. Naughty boys and girls. They don't want to be caught with their hands in the tills or worse. When bills are measured by inches and feet and pounds and we have eliminated the chance for line item veto thanks to the supreme court, who knows what gets slipped into large bills? Who has time to read them? You are made to look bad for not voting for certain bills on the surface, like a "Save a Child" bill that has a "psssst.... make all speed limit tickets felonies" hidden in it somewhere. When it costs millions to be elected you only get millionaires, billionaires, or well backed (and well owned) Senators and Congressmen and Congresswomen. And when the older recidivist elected make the rules, how can new people change anything? A fixed game makes for a cheated public. Once they have all our money and freedoms, what's left for their amusement? Concentration camps and torture? Game ranches with people for prey? Ho hum, they must be getting bored with all that money.

posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 12:51 AM
How to scare the # out of America

This is extremely dangerous stuff about to be laid out here.
It's worse than a plan, or a movement, a strategy, or even raw power.
By reading this you may be committing a crime against popular beliefs.

I am not a lawyer, nor a saviour. Proceed at your own risk. You have been warned.

Annulment or Abrogation

1. Do a search for +"Ancient federal laws"

2. Pick one. Something obsolete, minor, and irrelevant.

3. Hammer away at everyone and everything until it is gone.

4. Celebrate.

This will scare the hell out of a lot of people. Cause if we can do it once, we can do it again. The only danger is if people get too excited and start trying to abrogate things that matter. Then the idea will be squashed with extreme prejudice. But spending millions on propaganda to stop the abrogation of laws on 'hitching posts', or 'Ice carrying tongs' makes it easy to counter with the argument of... "I'll tell you what doesn't make sense, this law doesn't make sense."

The total number of federal laws is approaching five digits at least, if it hasn't surpassed that already.

Obfuscation of laws, is easier when there are too many to count.

There is no official number of the total number of federal laws, yet everyone of us is responsible for knowing each one.

We are doing this so that we _can_ obey the law. Something that most people have given up on.

If this starts to succeed, one day our children or our grand children will be able to abrogate a law that really will matter to us.

As I say the main danger is loosing support to the chimera of some "more-important" law.

Like Sun Tsu said "When torrential water tosses boulders, it is because of its momentum." So start tiny. Real tiny, and insignificant. Momentum will come.

Hell TPTB have been annuling our lives for generations. Hasn't the moment come for us to start returning the favor? I can dream can't I?

David Grouchy

posted on Nov, 11 2010 @ 12:57 AM
Could not agree more.

The puppet show that everyone gets so riled up over, is just a puppet show.
Who's pulling the strings?

GOD only knows.

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