An Honest Look Into Suicide, Near Death Experiences, and the Afterlife, page 3

Originally posted by ColbyNathan
CaticusMaximus
That is an extremely comforting idea and sounds a bit like something called "The law of attraction" Is there any relation to that if you've heard of it? And what has given you these conclusions? I like what you said and would definitely like you to elaborate on your reasoning behind this.

Thanks, and sure I will elaborate. Ill preface it all though by saying this is just my personal perspective that Ive formed over my lifetime. I dont believe in much objectivity in metaphysical things; aside from a couple basic, simple laws, everything else is fluid. Thus all beliefs are the correct ones, and it really is our choice were to go.

Yeah Ive heard of the law of attraction, and it is similar to what Im saying. Essentially, at its most basic, it IS the "law of attraction" in the most strictest sense, but not in the normal way thought about it, as I understand it, which is that if you think of something hard enough, itll become reality (Ala "the secret"). Upon thought responsive planes, thats true. Whatever you think you will immediately manifest. But in the physical, its tougher than that. The principle is essentially sound, but in the physical we all have so much shielded subconscious baggage, that little of the time are we consciously thinking about what we REALLY want. Most of our thoughts are kind of like bubbling ups from our subconscious, but those are not purely thoughts we control. Most are just rehashments and processings of what weve recently accumulated in our minds.

So yes and no, depending on how you look at it.

I came to my current conclusions just by looking at how things operate as objectively as possible, without trying to fit the evidence to any specific theory. Reports of NDEs and OBEs really helped me with this, because there is hardly any consistent information in these reports. One thing that is consistent however, is that the persons beliefs inevitably shaped what they saw. Christians see Jesus, Jews see Moses, atheists with nagging doubts find a great void, then Jesus to pull them out of it, hardcore atheists see nothing, pagans see the summerland, etc (those who see different than what they thought they would, I believe are telling the truth from a conscious stand point. From a subconscious one, I think they all have seen exactly what they were expecting).

From that consistency, its easy for me to see that reality is no where near as static and rigid as Western materialism would have society think it is, at least in regards to the Astral (spirit world) and above.

A major part of my perspective is from actually having been consciously out of body as well. Im far from a master or even an adept, but even one, single conscious OBE is all it takes even the most doubting to never doubt the persistence of consciousness again. I highly recommend it for all people

As for our sovereignty, property and what constitute it has to be brought up. IMO, you only own what you are, and since you are you, and no one else is, you own you, so to speak, and it cannot ever be any other way. Thus by extension, everything you, the spirit, manifests, is yours as well to do with as you please. Anything intrinsic to you, if yours, including your life, which you have absolute and final say over at all times.

Its really about taking responsibility.

Theres a lot of feeling something is right, too. Theres never going to be "proof" of anything being objective, as all proof is subjective anyway. I encourage everyone to believe whatever feels right and best to them. If you want to believe in fear and damnation and spiritual enslavement, choose an abrahamic religion

Love nature? Be a pagan. Or just make it up as you go along, like many do, myself included.

Thats all just my opinion, of course