And yet still never proven to be a contrail.....
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by backinblack
And yet still never proven to be a contrail.....
PROVEN to be a contrail.
Whilst firstly wrongly identified in some initial investigations, was subsequently solidly identified.
This is not under any 'cloud' of uncertainty, it is clear in the record, and in history.
Really? So what plane was it??
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by backinblack
Really? So what plane was it??
UPS flight 902
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Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by backinblack
Historical records.
Once investigated carefully, the earlier mistakes were corrected, and the actual airplane identified.
It is not difficult to understand. And, the history is on record, and is factual.
Further.....the contrail in the News video and still photos was NOT a missile trace, launched from the surface.
This is a fact, and also well documented.
Just guessing here but the footage shows the missile streaking away from the camera off to the right. If the camera was facing more or less west, this would make the missile direction northwest, so heading away from the USA. If it was heading toward the USA I'm sure the US would be a lot more concerned about it if they didn't know who fired it.
If NORAD didn't really detect this launch there will be a lot of questions to answer, but I suspect they did and just aren't making any public statements about it yet.
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by backinblack
Seriously mate, I don't think you know what a fact is..
NO official has come forward to identify the plane so where's this "historical record"???
Sly little insults don't suit you mate but if that's the way you wish to play them I'm game.
From March 1996 to December 1999, McInerney was Chief Executive Officer and President of Business Executives for National Security (BENS), an association through which senior business executives can help enhance the nations security.
KFMB showed video of the apparent missile to former U.S. Ambassador to NATO Robert Ellsworth, who is also a former Deputy Secretary of Defense, to get his thoughts....
"It's spectacular… It takes people's breath away," said Ellsworth, calling the projectile, "a big missile".
Robert F. Ellsworth, an independent-minded former Republican congressman from Kansas who helped run the 1968 presidential campaign of Richard M. Nixon and was rewarded with a top White House job and then the ambassadorship to NATO, died on Monday in Encinitas, Calif. He was 84.
Well, I realized that it was something that we saw earlier from the week before -- we saw something very similar the past Thursday, and immediately I realized that it was something very similar, and called on the 2-way there to our assignment desk to let them know that we were seeing it again. It's not as dramatic as the one from yesterday -- the one from yesterday was pretty spectacular. Like I said, it was growing in nature and continued to fly up into the sky, and at one point it seemed to separate. The smoke or the plume seemed to stop and then continue further up in the sky and then finally disappear.
Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by tommyjo
From these images only i could tell those contrails dont belong to a plane, in your first picture it doesnt look like a plane at all.
Because from the shape of it it has no wings look close when you zoom on it
The photographer is using a 70.0-300.0 mm zoom lens.
even as a foe i still respect your findings on other issues.Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by backinblack
Historical records.
Once investigated carefully, the earlier mistakes were corrected, and the actual airplane identified.
It is not difficult to understand. And, the history is on record, and is factual.
Further.....the contrail in the News video and still photos was NOT a missile trace, launched from the surface.
This is a fact, and also well documented.
