The Ultimate Deception (not a lot of time)

Originally posted by wcitizen
reply to post by gravitational

 

And if I say this is disgusting, vile and racist, will you also say I am anti-semitic:

October 2010, quote from Rabbi Ovadia Yousef:

“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel,” he said during a public discussion of what kind of work non-Jews are allowed to perform on Shabbat.

"Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat,"

"With gentiles, it will be like any person: They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant. That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew,”
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No, I will say HE is a senile idiot.

I will also state again that you guys sound exactly like Josef Goebbels and his boss the fuhrer in their famous hate speeches, in which they put the blame on the Jews for every wrong doing and problem in the world.

“All Jews by virtue of their birth and their race are part of an international conspiracy against National Socialist Germany. They want its defeat and annihilation, and do all in their power to bring it about. That they can do nothing inside the Reich is hardly a sign of their loyalty, but rather of the appropriate measures we took against them.”

Josef Goebbels


“Of all the extreme fanaticism which plays havoc in man’s nature, there is not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. … If the Jews are rich [these fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to his own land, he is prevented from doing so.”

Lloyd George 1923

Change the word “Jew” with “Zionist” and you get basically the same thing.
I'm sick of this. This is Zionism :

Zionism (Hebrew: ציונות‎, Tsiyonut) is primarily a nationalist[1] or national liberation[2] Jewish political movement that, in its broadest sense, has supported the self-determination of the Jewish people in a sovereign Jewish national homeland.[3] Since the establishment of the State of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily to advocate on behalf of the Jewish state and address threats to its continued existence and security .

Those “true Jews Rabbis “ represent a very minor section of Judaism, and hold a very extreme ideology. You have Zero knowledge of what these people really are.
You are grasping at stows here.

So yes, blaming Zionism is the same as blaming the Jewish people in my book. You are Anti-Semitic but you lack the courage to admit it. Grow up, grow some balls, be a man and admit it.
Once you d that, try and educate yourself with some real history books.

reply to post by gravitational


Yes i agree with you that the jews have been the victim of a conspiracy against them in the world. I also believe it is the same zionist that have plotted this conspiracy against them.

The zionist are NOT the monotheistic jews they attribute themselves with. They are polytheists, the elite who perform rituals around a pagan diety in bohemian grove.

The problem is with zionists, the black magic performing kabbalists, the pagans who believe in blood sacrifice, the ones who believe in deites like Baal, lillith, moloch, Jahbulon, those are the ones who incite wars, who deceive under the false claim of being Jews.

The real jews of judaism who follow Moses, who worship Yahweh, share no attributes to the zionists.

You say we are being anti semitic, i guess in some sense you maybe right, in the fact that many of these pagan dieties were worshipped by the semitic people.

The problem is you put all the sects cult or groups under one banner and call them 'Jews', you are the one who need to read books and conduct your own research.

I am a muslim and there is also sects in islam that originate from occult or pagain influence, these sects such as Ahmadiyya (mirza ghulam ahmad having been influence by zionists to attain power) the sufis and the wahhabis also have mystical and occult practices which also stem from pagan doctrines. These groups also supported the zionist movement.. even sunnis of Saudi have been influenced for power and they take a blinds eye toward the zionist movement, the majority who have resisted this movement are shias, and that is shown by Lebanon and Iran. I am actually sunni myslef and find this to be sad..

But i digress, yes the zionist movement have infiltrated many cultures and societies religions and sects. The only reason there is all this Jew-hate is because they falsely identify themself as Jewish. If they were to idenitify themself as muslim or christian the hate will go in those directions instead. The main reason they tend to hide under the jewish title is because of the sympathy vote. They have waged so many wars under Anti Semitism , the holocaust etc.

To find out about all this you would haveto delve much deeper down the rabbit hole my friend. There are many truths to yet uncover. People are starting to wake up, the persecuted are starting to rise against the oppressors.

To the guy who posted earlier wiht all the bombings etc, yes they may have been done by extremists, but it is really hard to gain factual or evidencial information regarding these. Taliban were funded by US in those times dont forget, and may even continue to do so now, and the Al Qaida were actually MADE by US intelligence lol.
You also directed the statistics to 'those that belive in 9/11 conspiracy', i wonder why you didnt include that under your supposed list of deaths.
It is easy to find a bunch of deaths and attribute them toward a partcular viewpoint, but if you were to see or know the real truth, then im sure you would find te zionist movements deathlist or what i would call 'blood sacrifice' to number a much higher figure.

To research such claims one cannot simply throw in some links and expect the viewer to change their views, that seldom happens. The only way one can find truth is to spend time researching these matter from multitudes of sources from biased unbiased and all accounts. Then you will slowly grasp your own understanding....and srely truth will stand out from error..

Peace and respect to all, and forgive me for my bad grammar and spellings :S

reply to post by gravitational


The anti-semitisim, Holocaust, Nazi accusations have had their day - and don't work any more. Get used to it.

That leaves you with the truth - which I understand is very hard for you to face.

The Rabbi you call an idiot is not considered an idiot by the Israeli thug politicians, and in any case, it's as plain as day that what he says is actually being played out in reality.

Now, enough of your anti-goyim insults and hate spewing against those who disagree with the brutal Israeli death machine.

reply to post by nastyj


Great post.

op, while I hold a grudge against much of Israel's recent actions, your post might be one of the most untruthful, unresearched and outright misguided posts I have come across this week.

There are so many blatant falsifications in your statements that it would take more time than its worth to sort them all out. Just to begin: In 2010, RUSSIAN spies were caught operating domestically, as have other spies throughout this country's brief history.

reply to post by gravitational



Incitement to hatred against non-Jews in the Talmud.

From the Talmud:

Where a Jew Should Do Evil
Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there..

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.

Gloats over Christ Dying Young
A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old."

www.jewwatch.com...

About the Protocols of Zion:

In 1905, professor Sergyei Nilus, an official of the Dept. of Foreign Religions at Moscow, published a book containing what was purported to be THE PROTOCOLS OF THE MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION. A copy of the original Nilus publication sits in the British Museum in London, bearing the date of its reception, August 10, 1906. These Protocols are said to give the substance of addresses delivered in Switzerland in 1897 to the innermost circle of the rulers of International Jewry. They are said to reveal the secret plan for world domination as concocted by the Jewish Nation for centuries, as developed through the ages and edited by their Elders up to that date.

The Jews, of course, have vehemently denied that such a meeting of "Learned Elders" ever took place, or that any kind of secret Jewish international organisation or conspiracy exists. And though they claim that the Protocols are forgeries (the definition of forgery is an unauthorised copy of the original! In this respect, and since the Jews didn't want their existence known to the world, they probably ARE forgeries!), and have spent a fortune to suppress and discredit them, even making it illegal to possess them in some countries, they have never attempted to address or answer the real question that the existence of such a document raises: Have they fulfilled the Protocols while claiming they did not write them? Yes.

Then, what is the difference whether they wrote them or not?



LIST OF CONTENTS OF THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION:
www.biblebelievers.org.au...

Protocol I The Basic Doctrine
Protocol II Economic Wars
Protocol III Methods of Conquest
Protocol IV Materialism Replaces Religion
Protocol V Despotism and Modern Progress
Protocol VI Take-Over Technique
Protocol VII World-Wide Wars
Protocol VIII Provisional Government
Protocol IX Re-education
Protocol X Preparing for Power
Protocol XI The Totalitarian State
Protocol XII Control of the Press
Protocol XIII Distractions
Protocol XIV Assault on Religion
Protocol XV Ruthless Suppression
Protocol XVI Brainwashing
Protocol XVII Abuse of Authority
Protocol XVIII Arrest of Opponents
Protocol XIX Rulers and People
Protocol XX Financial Programme
Protocol XXI Loans and Credit
Protocol XXII Power of Gold
Protocol XXIII Instilling Obedience
Protocol XXIV Qualities of the Ruler


Have a look at this document. Have a look at the quotations from Rabbi Yosef, have a look at the quotations from the Talmud - and compare this to what is going on in our world.

It is impossible to deny what the Zionists are up to, what their philosophy is and what their aim is.

Quote by Ariel Sharon.

Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial."

-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 March, 2001 quoted in BBC News Online


This is the thinking behind the constant accusations of 'anti-semitism' - the belief is that we, the Goyim, have NO RIGHT to criticise Israel/Zionism/Jews, about anything, ever. Punkt.

From Protocols of Zion. Protocol No. 5

Extract:

IN ORDER TO PUT PUBLIC OPINION INTO OUR HANDS WE MUST BRING IT INTO A STATE OF BEWILDERMENT BY GIVING EXPRESSION FROM ALL SIDES TO SO MANY CONTRADICTORY OPINIONS AND FOR SUCH LENGTH OF TIME AS WILL SUFFICE TO MAKE THE GOYIM LOSE THEIR HEADS IN THE LABYRINTH AND COME TO SEE THAT THE BEST THING IS TO HAVE NO OPINION OF ANY KIND IN MATTERS POLITICAL, which it is not given to the public to understand, because they are understood only by him who guides the public. This is the first secret.

The second secret requisite for the success of our government is comprised in the following. To multiply to such an extent national failings, habits, passions, conditions of civil life, that it will be impossible for anyone to know where he is in the resulting chaos, so that the people in consequence will fail to understand one another. This measure will also serve us in another way, namely, to sow discord in all parties, to dislocate all collective forces which are still unwilling to submit to us, and to discourage any kind of personal initiative which might in any degree hinder our affair. THERE IS NO- THING MORE DANGEROUS THAN PERSONAL INITIATIVE;

Another extract:

20. The word "freedom" brings out the communities of men to fight against every kind of force, against every kind of authority even against God and the laws of nature. For this reason we, when we come into our kingdom, shall have to erase this word from the lexicon of life as implying a principle of brute force which turns mobs into bloodthirsty beasts.

Originally posted by Use your brain
op, while I hold a grudge against much of Israel's recent actions, your post might be one of the most untruthful, unresearched and outright misguided posts I have come across this week.

There are so many blatant falsifications in your statements that it would take more time than its worth to sort them all out. Just to begin: In 2010, RUSSIAN spies were caught operating domestically, as have other spies throughout this country's brief history.

how do we know for sure if they were "Russian" or "other" spies ?

isn't it possible that they were "false-flaggers" with the intent of mass hysteria ?

Originally posted by Use your brain
op, while I hold a grudge against much of Israel's recent actions, your post might be one of the most untruthful, unresearched and outright misguided posts I have come across this week.

There are so many blatant falsifications in your statements that it would take more time than its worth to sort them all out. Just to begin: In 2010, RUSSIAN spies were caught operating domestically, as have other spies throughout this country's brief history.

I was away for a while. Which of my claims are falsifications? Let us go through them one by one. Everything is substantiated. Let us go through each, my blanket friend.

What the hell does the one thing you pointed out have to do with my post?? I never mentioned anything about the spy ring involving Russia in 2010. The only thing I can think of is when I mentioned the Israeli spies. They amount is absolutely disgusting.

In regards to one issue, namely the Lavon Affair, not only did Israeli's stage a false-flag terror attack targeting American, British, and Egypt owned hotels In Egypt designed to look like the work of Muslims, but In 2005 Israeli President Moshe Katzav awarded the Israeli survivors with certificates of appreciation. Did you read that correctly??? In 2005, two years after the United States invaded Iraq for Israel, sacrificing over 4000 of our brave American men and women, the President of Israel gave recognition and awards to Israeli agents that targeted an American hotel for a terrorist attack!!! Are you #ing kidding me? Where is that outrage??? Here is one of many sources just for this one out of the myriad transgressions committed by Israel against the United States.

en.wikipedia.org...

Tell me each falsification I made! We will go through them one by one. I am still trying to figure out what the hell you were talking about with the Russian spy ring. Nice try, however. Just throw out that I made some falsifications without getting into specifics. That is exactly what The Zionist controlled media does! The truth it there. The truth is all there is. Everything else is a lie!

Please share this information with EVERYONE you know!!! All that is stake is humanity. Do not get angry. Do not be disrespectful. Simply guide them to the information.


God bless...

reply to post by digginapony


Someone asked in another thread why he or she has to take a side when it concerns the Israeli/Palestinian situation. This is my reply:

You do not know why you have to take a side? Well, you do not.

Keep in mind that Israel has repeatedly attacked the United States. Look into the USS Liberty, the Lavon Affair, and the King David Hotel bombings just for starters. It is the only Middle-Eastern government to EVER attack the US. Palestinians never did anything to the US. Israel received billions upon billions of dollars of aid and advanced weaponry used to kill Palestinians. Take a look at the following map that shows Israeli-Palestinian land from 1946 until 2000. You do not have to take a side. Israel is committing genocide and committing the worst cases of ethnic cleansing. There are over 4 million Palestinian refugees due to the Zionist state of Israel. You do not have to take a side. Albert Einstein once said "the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." You do not have to take a side. After all, it is this indifference that is allowing this egregious humanitarian crisis to continue unabated similarly to Einstein's observation. Make no mistake, your choosing not to take a side is still making a choice. God Bless...

whatreallyhappened.com...

Look at the map a little bit down the page of Israel's usurping of land through the years. Are you kidding me? Are you freaking kidding me? Muslims hate the United States because of its freedom??? Are you freaking kidding me??

P.S. There was a Russian spy ring scandal in 2010. Where is that imbecile?

Originally posted by Use your brain
op, while I hold a grudge against much of Israel's recent actions, your post might be one of the most untruthful, unresearched and outright misguided posts I have come across this week.

There are so many blatant falsifications in your statements that it would take more time than its worth to sort them all out. Just to begin: In 2010, RUSSIAN spies were caught operating domestically, as have other spies throughout this country's brief history.

Come on, genius, "use your brain". Point out any falsifications in my post. Let us go through each incident one by one.

Are you going to point out that your car got a flat tire in April so it shows what I know? Perhaps you are going to point out that Barack Obama is currently President of the United States, so therefore since I never mentioned anything about that, my post must be comprised of falsifications.

Dana Perino was the White House secretary during Bush's second term. I did not mention this in my post, ergo my post must be full of lies.

Where are you, genius???