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reply posted on 8-11-2010 @ 11:01 PM by notsofast
reply to post by Miraj



first off, i'm not knockin' your post.. i can understand, how it would seem that a hold might not be right, or how someone who's new, might need a pointer..and thanks for pointing that out, but that being said...

a) i know what i'm doing. and have done it along time... way too much damage to this old body over the years and i've studied way more than i listed. i was a bounty hunter, repo man, bouncer and body guard. and that was my fun job.

b) you've obviously never had to choke out a coked up drug dealer who was looking at spending the next ten years in prison.

the problem is most people study or take classes.. whatever.. and have it in their heads, they know what to do, and can do it..the real world doesn't work that way.

in the real world, when you try to choke someone out, they don't just stand there. they try their best to put the back of your favorite head through the wall.

and i'm not saying YOU, that's a generalization of people who watch way too much tv. you could well be a hand to hand or close quarter instructor... i dunno.. i'm talking about people who've watched one to many episodes of the ultimate fighter and now think they're a bad mama jama... when they've never been in a fight before..or worse, have fought in a ring.. but never on the street.. (big difference).. and i'm willing to bet my last penny, that some of those people are posting on this thread...

like i said, telling this lady she should learn to choke out a larger possibly drugged up, out of his mind attacker, because they've seen royce gracie do it shows a lack of regard for her safety.

seems like some are just posting to be posting... if she were a grown man, my size and strength, i'd say go for chokes and joint manipulation... that'd be fine... but she isn't and should work to her personal physical abilities...
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reply posted on 9-11-2010 @ 12:02 AM by Miraj
reply to post by notsofast



I'm just speaking from a biological standpoint. Once those carotid arteries are pressed off, it won't matter if you're on PCP, you're still going down the same as someone thats not high. Probably quicker considering the stress put on the body. But I understand it would be a lot harder to get someone in that position if they were drugged up.


reply posted on 9-11-2010 @ 03:48 AM by anglodemonicmatrix
reply to post by SFlowers


I dont know where you are in New York State but i'll try offer some suggestions if you're after self defense then you want unarmed combat not a traditional art,theres a lot of suggestions of Brazilian Jujitsu but that is an art that takes years to master plus it focuses on ground fighting,the ground is NOT where you want to be in a street fight for your purposes I suggest either the Charles Nelson School of Self defense in New York which teaches unarmed combat using tried and tested methods from World War 2 onwards,Richard Dimitris Senshido if he has a class nearby or Kelly Mc Cann if he has a school or representative in the area,failing that Krav Maga would be the best martial art to learn rudimentary defence in a short period of time.Most martial arts have too much of a 'sport' component and do not focus on reality training to properly prepare you for a violent confrontation.


reply posted on 9-11-2010 @ 06:19 AM by rajaten
reply to post by Beyond Creation




Taekwondo is the weakest martial art that exists man. It requires no skill or ability at all. Sorry to break the news to you but it really is lame. You should just try some tai chi.


reply posted on 9-11-2010 @ 06:24 AM by weaverre
Firstly may i say cudos to you for looking at some form of defense for the lady in question and secondly so far as not wanting to hurt anyone my eldest son is exactly the same yet he and his two younger brothers do ju jitsu and this has solved a few bullying problems at school and in the streets and has helped enormously with his self confidence.
Some one earlier said that this may not be a good idea for one lacking in upper body streangth atm but there are means and ways around this in the art of ju jitsu as she goes onto gain that.
Its an art that can be as gentle or as vicious as the situation needs to be or what she judges to be needed at any given time, also it will teach techniques of form over power in many areas either she finds her self on the floor g-d forbid or is being attacked upright, from a single or multiple opponent incorporating strikes, holds and weapons training to name but a few.
Stay away from karate its basically line dancing ( katas ) especially GKR its really no use unless you are fighting someone else doing the same style Aikido is ok and once up in the black belts and above can be quiet effective, Krav Maga is viscous from the onset and can overwhelm a gentler natured person and is basically ju jitsu with all the polish and ceremony taken away.
The best ideas i have read so far are for her to try as many styles as you can take her to and leave the ju jitsu until last and i will admit i am being bias tbh where this form is concerned as its the one i have always come back to in the end as i can use this with an arthritic neck,back and hips still with some effectiveness and adapting what i know.
Alternatively as one very wise person said there is the very secretive art of ecki thump used by northern English working class menfolk involving flat caps, wippits and a black pudding i have said too much already ( i jest btw )



Good luck to you and peace

weavs


reply posted on 9-11-2010 @ 06:55 AM by Dragon33
As you'd expect, a different form practised by each person is a different opinion put on here.
I've done Taekwondo for just on 40 years now. I've held National titles and a couple of international ones. I hold a third Dan in TKD and am also a first Dan black belt in Judo. I instruct in both as well as general self defence for women.
Truth is, that no style will help you if you're expecting some guy at your door next week. Any style worth learning will take time to learn. Forget the suggestions I've read here of learning in so many weeks and such. It just isn't that easy.
There's no point in trying to master any form of martial art unless you are willing and able to go to the lengths it takes to learn years of teaching.
I would suggest going to a womens self defence class. There, instead of learning how to do a spinning round house kick with a triple punch combination... which takes years to master... you will learn how to kick him in the crotch and chop him in the throat and run like hell. A lot more effective for a lady who doesn't have the time or upper body strength to learn one of the martial arts.
Let's face facts... up until recent times... the only people trained in martial arts were men as they had the strength to carry out the moves. Women learning martial arts is a relatively new concept and even the best generally cant mix it with the guys in competition.
Even without any lessons at all... keep in mind... hits to groin and the throat, and a knife hand lunge or gouge of the eye gives bonus points. Dont try what some others have said and match your strength against his with a bloody choke hold. He'll rip your hands away and do what he wants if you try that. The aim is to disable and run like hell. Also keep in mind to make as much noise as you can. Yell, scream... whatever. More people will run to your aid if you yell fire than if you yell rape.
So, fingers to the eyes, knee/foot to the groin, chop or punch to the throat. Run like hell.
May peace be with you.
Take care... message me if you'd like to discuss... I'm available to help.
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