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posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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I cant believe this is STILL under debate. Lets face it, the guy didn't know what he was up against. He tried to hoax his own sighting and failed. Pitiful, yes...embarrassing, yes...lets stop giving this any more attention and move onto something else...hopefully something more worthy of 26 pages of posts.

Theres nothing more to see here folks. This is getting embarrassing. The OP has surely gotten the attention he was seeking, unfortunately.




posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by ufoorbhunter


The ufo orbs do not act that way.


Who said it was an orb ? It could be a hundred different things. Your avatar suggests you specialise in orbs. That is fair enough but I cannot see why every light in the sky must behave in accordance with the 'orbs' that you specialise in yourself.



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by noisemedia
He tried to hoax his own sighting and failed.



This is only your opinion.

I thought it was not acceptable to accuse a fellow member of being a hoaxer. The guy just shared his enthusiam for filming in NIR and in return he gets labelled a hoaxer.



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by crowdedskies

Originally posted by ufoorbhunter


The ufo orbs do not act that way.


Who said it was an orb ? It could be a hundred different things. Your avatar suggests you specialise in orbs. That is fair enough but I cannot see why every light in the sky must behave in accordance with the 'orbs' that you specialise in yourself.



Very true. I just get carried away analysing things against my own experiences.

To be honest and against what I said earlier I have seen them doing a dead fast straight line movement just like that in the OP's movie. They can act in that way............. but it is rare and they are usually (no kidding) not even standard ufo orb basketball size but golf ball in size.

PS Looking at the footage they may be going behind clouds, that means that they may be pretty much very much larger than the basket ball type in size. Some of my ufo orbs may be the scouts sent down by these in the OPs footage.

Very very very interesting stuff here.



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by ufoorbhunter



PS Looking at the footage they may be going behind clouds, that means that they may be pretty much very much larger than the basket ball type in size. Some of my ufo orbs may be the scouts sent down by these in the OPs footage.

Very very very interesting stuff here.


At least we agree here. They do appear behind the clouds.



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 05:30 PM
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To fully investigate or debate a UFO sighting you have to understand all possibilities including the possibility of it being a hoax, and the witness being a hoaxer. You have to take into account not only the visual evidence, but also the sound evidence, and the reactions of the witnesses, and the words of the witnesses, etc..

There is actually supporting evidence/reason to believe this particular sighting is fake or staged.

1) His reaction on the video sounds fake to many members. People ARE capable of detecting or noticing bad acting (opinion or not, it is cause for suspicion).

2) He admitted to filming these objects over a period of 4 years, multiple times, yet still ACTED like he was shocked to see them in his newest video.

3) He mysteriously deletes all of the videos and images.

Why would he act surprised if he was seen these for 4 years multiple times? It doesn't make sense.. possible but suspicious.

Mysteriously deleting all the videos and images is also suspicious. Like someone hiding guilt.

Because of this, people should be allowed to have the opinion that it is a hoax and he is a hoaxer. It's not exactly accusation, it is more like an opinion based on supporting logic.

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posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
reply to post by crowdedskies
 


To fully investigate or debate a UFO sighting you have to understand all possibilities including the possibility of it being a hoax, and the witness being a hoaxer. You have to take into account not only the visual evidence, but also the sound evidence, and the reactions of the witnesses, and the words of the witnesses, etc..

There is actually supporting evidence/reason to believe this particular sighting is fake or staged.

1) His reaction on the video sounds fake to many members. People ARE capable of detecting or noticing bad acting (opinion or not, it is cause for suspicion).

2) He admitted to filming these objects over a period of 4 years, multiple times, yet still ACTED like he was shocked to see them in his newest video.

3) He mysteriously deletes all of the videos and images.

Why would he act surprised if he was seen these for 4 years multiple times? It doesn't make sense.. possible but suspicious.

Mysteriously deleting all the videos and images is also suspicious. Like someone hiding guilt.

Because of this, people should be allowed to have the opinion that it is a hoax and he is a hoaxer. It's not exactly accusation, it is more like an opinion based on supporting logic.

edit on 13-11-2010 by gift0fpr0phecy because: (no reason given)


I do not believe anything is staged or faked. With regards to the points you mentioned, I think that he is trying to arouse interest in something he is keen on. Not everyone has the gift to sound natural when recording. In any case these kind of lights have been filmed by hundreds of people, and in my view they are not birds or bugs.

As for deleting clips and images, you would probably do the same. If for instance you uploaded a fantastic clip that you witnessed with your very own eyes, there will be a few that will say CGI. Then your clip will become a testament that you are a 'hoaxer' because someone says so. Your clip will then be distributed around the world as a famous hoax. How would you feel about that ? I bet you would delete the clip even though it was genuine.




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posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by crowdedskies
I do not believe anything is staged or faked.


That is your opinion. An opinion that could cause you to believe something fake and be mislead. That is the difference between a good investigator and a bad one.

If you slightly feel something is fake and you investigate these feelings, you may come across evidence that proves you to be correct. If your are wrong, you are wrong, nothing bad will come of it.

However, if you don't feel it is fake then you never investigate that avenue. You will believe it is real, and if you are wrong you are made a fool to believe something that is not real.


Originally posted by crowdedskies
With regards to the points you mentioned, I think that he is trying to arouse interest in something he is keen on. Not everyone has the gift to sound natural when recording. In any case these kind of lights have been filmed by hundreds of people, and in my view they are not birds or bugs.


What you think doesn't matter. It's what is true that matters. The only way to find out the truth is to investigate all possible avenues that could be true. One possible avenue is that this is all staged, and that is the avenue which you should investigate to find out what is true or not.

If you only investigate it being real, then you may over look evidence of it being false. However, if you investigate it being false, you are actually investigating both true and false. If you look for it being false and you don't find it, then it is possibly true. If you only search for it being true then you can actually be mislead by lies.

Also your claim that "these kinds of lights have been filmed by hundreds of people" is pure speculation. You are assuming that these lights are in any way connected to other sightings based on their looks and characteristics only, and assuming those other lights were also real UFO.

I have been investigating UFOs for a long time, and I have seen videos of bugs and birds that look EXACTLY like what you see in his videos. So just like you I can easily dismiss this case based on the fact that videos like this which were of birds and bugs have been filmed by hundreds of people.



Originally posted by crowdedskies
As for deleting clips and images, you would probably do the same. If for instance you uploaded a fantastic clip that you witnessed with your very own eyes, there will be a few that will say CGI. Then your clip will become a testament that you are a 'hoaxer' because someone says so. Your clip will then be distributed around the world as a famous hoax. How would you feel about that ? I bet you would delete the clip even though it was genuine.


Out of all possibilities, yes, that is one of them. However, it is also possible that he is hiding his guilt. So what is your point? We need to find the truth, not make up alternative possibilities and brush them off.

If these were real UFO he wouldn't have to worry about people thinking they are fake because truth will prevail. If I had genuine footage I wouldn't care what people said because I would know the truth, and the truth will win in the end.

Also, just so you know, the OP didn't see these "with his very own eyes". He used an infrared camera to view them, and claimed himself only his camera can see them. He is looking at a 2D, pixelated, probably out of focus, and distorted view of them which supports the idea that he is just confused and doesn't know if they are birds or bugs or not.

For him to delete all his videos is very telling. Either he couldn't handle people thinking they are fake (which is a given with any video), or they are fake and he is hiding his guilt. Hiding the evidence which makes him guilty.



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 08:30 AM
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Since the video is no longer available it WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THE MODS TO CLOSE THIS THREAD so others don;t waste their time like I just did, THANK YOU!



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 06:10 PM
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The slow-motion version I made is still available.





posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Since the video is no longer available it WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THE MODS TO CLOSE THIS THREAD so others don;t waste their time like I just did, THANK YOU!


I posted the video not as proof of UFO's but to share with the ATS users, yet I was attacked personally time and time again. When I tried to post responses in kind to the attacks they were deleted by the Mods, making me look like a idiot.
I asked the Mods to delete this thread yet they refused, so my only recourse was to delete the Videos...... Why anyone would put up with personal attacks here I'll never know, but I for one will never post another video on ATS again.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by GammaRayBurst

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Since the video is no longer available it WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THE MODS TO CLOSE THIS THREAD so others don;t waste their time like I just did, THANK YOU!


I posted the video not as proof of UFO's but to share with the ATS users, yet I was attacked personally time and time again. When I tried to post responses in kind to the attacks they were deleted by the Mods, making me look like a idiot.
I asked the Mods to delete this thread yet they refused, so my only recourse was to delete the Videos...... Why anyone would put up with personal attacks here I'll never know, but I for one will never post another video on ATS again.


Totally agree with you . ATS was never a place to post UFO clips. All you get for sharing is character assasination and vicious personal attacks. It is sad that you have been accused of being a hoaxer.

Perhaps the lesson is that it is not advisable to share clips on forums which have a diversity of people with different interests and views. Had you posted on a website that has genuine UFO enthusiasts, there would have been a good discussion and also many suggestions like converting a 60x zoom cam into a NIR cam, with the exceptional results that this entails.

Some people here have decided to make Ufology their own dicipline with own rules and regulations. Yet it is a subject open to everybody and , since no one seems to have a clue what UFOs are, there is no such thing as an expert.



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 12:31 PM
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Here is the most recent video evidence that was released with actual proof of alien/Reptilian/Raptor abductions, 2 videos, one with subtext, one in English:

www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...

Also:
There are videos on Youtube that show that something other than a 747 hit the pentagon..
Not sure what but its worth a look, the tip of a jet liner is round, not pointed... just
search "pentagon 911" and look for the video that shows a Large Green shiny
object in the security footage, also there is a video that shows some strange small
flashing objects near the second plane that hit the WTC.. Not sure what it is but worth a
look and I think it is all related to these videos and whats being kept a secret from us
all!!! This is also what was used to form the TSA!!!!!
See this video: www.youtube.com...

I will try to disseminate the information to you a little at a time.. sorry for any
mispellings!!

First we all know about Roswell NM. Too many witnesses to keep it quit. The result of
that meeting was that Secret Organization MJ-12 received these ships that Bob Lasar
helped to reverse engineer, and now an unknown element 115 is on the Periodic Table that
is taught to our children in school!!!

Watch all 6 videos 1: www.youtube.com...
2: www.youtube.com...
3: www.youtube.com...
4: www.youtube.com...
5: www.youtube.com...
6: www.youtube.com...

My question is, Who is running the Planet if these secret organizations are working with
the Grey now???

Second, Look up "Edgar Fouche" as he has released proof of what was built with
the reverse engineered technology. It uses a different engine because our "LHC"
collider is not producing enough antimater to power our ships currently, either way, our
ships are not for us, they are only to save the Rich and Elite and Powerful Politicians,
Corporate Business Owners, and Military worldwide as they are the only ones with the
money to buy freedom. Our planet is a Prison Plannet. They see us as cattle and we were
sold like so much cattle. Search for "body found missing organs and blood" some
of the Reptilians called Draconan I have seen, use us for food, they only like the
insides, not the skin or bones. I no longer work for these contracts and never signed Top
Secret papers so they cannot arrest me for discolsing this information.

Then see these lectures by Phil Schneider who has died/been killed for giving these
lectures.
1: www.youtube.com...
2: www.youtube.com...
3: www.youtube.com...
4: www.youtube.com...
5: www.youtube.com...
6: www.youtube.com...
7: www.youtube.com...
We have no defense against Plasma Weapons!!

As incredible as it is to believe these videos, they are real, these people risked and
sometimes lost their lives for providing this information. Please copy and share this
information before it is too late. Who do we go to when those secret agencies are in
control?

God/Prime Creator is Love! He is the only one that can help us and he has sent someone to
help us. I cannot give you my proof. They will take it from me if I do. But it is all
real and true. I purchased an anti-spy radio frequency device from www.chinavasion.com
called "Hidden Camera Detector" and it never lit up for months. I would crank
up the detector to full blast with the antenna up or down and nothing. After I started
sharing this information it started lighting up like a christmas tree. So I put the
antenna down, cranked up the sensitivity and low and behold, one knuckle in each hand
makes the detector rise a notch!!! It was worth the $30.

Can you say RFID???

The good news is we can ask for help and spiritual enlightenment. Please help me, help
all of us. My only wish is to save those of us that are innocent and have been lied to
for all our lives and throughout history. See these videos about a good race that came to
offer us help. They offered our Government help but were turned away because they did not
offer them technology.

Here are the videos, God/Prime Creator Bless us All and please keep making videos of the
truth as it inspires people like myself to continue the fight and to remember that God/Prime Creator is
love!!
1: www.youtube.com...
2: www.youtube.com...
3: www.youtube.com...
4: www.youtube.com...
5: www.youtube.com...
6: www.youtube.com...
7: www.youtube.com...
8: www.youtube.com...
9: www.youtube.com...
10: www.youtube.com...
11: www.youtube.com...
12: www.youtube.com...

Here are the Complete Audio tapes on video dictated by Randolph Winters of Billy Meiers Contact Notes and a link for just the Audio but more info available on the Audio Tapes only:

video.google.com...#
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www.guba.com...
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www.guba.com...

And this one: www.archive.org...

Much effort went into trying to disprove Billy's footage,
Also look up "Future of Mankind" on the Internet for the Billy Meier Wiki's.
You should know that there are litteraly thousands of disinformation agents working for secret organizations hidden within the worlds governments. Youtube is privately owned and these videos cannot be
removed!!!

The Pleiadians said before they left, that we must meditate and ask for help,
think of "Paa Tal" during your meditation and ask for help for us all. I am
still alive because I did this and now I meditate and pray in private each day for
continued strength. I do not attend a church, but pray in private. God/Prime Creator is
within us, not in a temple!!!

My first question after finding these things out was, What kind of advanced life form would tell
us that
1: God isn't real? or 2: that they want a Caos and Fear based society?
Well the only connection I could make is that they are not of God/Prime Creator!!!
Reptilian Draconans!!! You don't want to be blind when their plan unfolds or we will be
defenseless!!!
The Bible says, beware the talking snake.. Thats the best connection I can make for you.

I hope you take time to absorb all the information. I can only give you what is publicly
released or they will try to put me in Federal Prison like "Gary Mckinnon".

Here is a video that proves that the NASA videos you see on Youtube are real, like the
"STS75" mission showing objects appearing here: www.youtube.com...
was real, also search "STS75 Forensic Evidence": www.youtube.com...
here is the link for Gary Mckinnon's charges: www.youtube.com...

Also search "Reptilian News" www.youtube.com...
on Youtube to see the hologram failure. Pay close attention to her face when she blinks just before the cammera cuts away!!!
Also, "Reptile Woman" www.youtube.com...
for a home video on Super 8 video that is not the speed
our eyes see at so you see the Hologram failure and the orb at one point that is
projecting her hologram. These Draconan are master genetecists and have changed their
physical appearance to look like us but they have slits in their eyes like a cat. However
they are working to hide that as well.

Also search YouTube for "Alex Collier" as he also has a message from Pleiadian
Allies.

Beware, be brave, Meditate, Ask for Help!!!

Saalome(Pleiadian for Peace & Wisdom)



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 07:35 PM
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You can't be serious.......go do Yoga dude.



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 10:50 PM
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it says access denied when it tries to load the vid



posted on Nov, 30 2010 @ 07:49 AM
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GammaRayBurst removed the videos.

See this post.



posted on Nov, 30 2010 @ 09:26 AM
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If this is from the video the woman shot then it said there was a meteor shower going on. It's a plane and a meteor in the background. Nothing more nothing less. That video of the woman shooting airliners was just nutty, it's like she'd never seen a plane before.



posted on Nov, 30 2010 @ 04:12 PM
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Hey Gammarayburst and all,

Sure you know Bush2's Admin attempted to ban UV and Infrared Film. First read a patch about the effort from a Toshiba ad, then a wee-bit of follow-up from Linda at earthfiles. Then not all that long after I witnessed the Mexican dude using a digital and infrared camera videoing the the same disk. Only the infrared showed the image. Go figure!!

Decoy



posted on Nov, 30 2010 @ 04:16 PM
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Just proves what really the UFO section is for.



posted on Dec, 1 2010 @ 01:36 AM
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is it true ? i want to see UFO with my own eyes





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