In regard to the Qu'ran, which you use to support your belief of Raj Patel being THE antichrist. I wasn't going to comment further on this, but I just couldn't help to point out something hilarious & sad. Ok, I'm a Christian and I accept God is one. But, there is the Holy Trinity. Ok, in Islam God is one with no partners, no Son & Holy Spirit. YET, in the Qu'ran God refers to Himself as We. Well, who is We ? If God is just God, no Son and no Holy Spirit. Why would God speak of Himself in the third person? Is the God of Islam schizophrenic?

When God created man from the clay, He said ' Let Us create man in Our image'. Ok that word for God in the Hebrew is Elohim and points to the trinity. It seems to me the Qu'ran contradicts itself and does. That is all, thank you. I am up for discussion on Mr. Patel though.

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod

Do you realize how blind you are?

Have you really watched my series? Have you even watched the episode proposed in this thread?

I only quotes the Koran, I deny all the organized religion and clearly expose them as sects, so I am neither Christian, nor muslim, nor from any organized religion, sect or -ism... I stand alone with God and God is far enough for all my needs.

By the way, the Vatican is composed of a bunch of satanists and have nothing to do with God...

My Guidance is from the Master of the Universe and from his last perfect reading: the Koran, I do not follow men or spirits (3rd eye is another of their names) like you do.

Originally posted by xiphias
The malicious Jinn/devil is strong in your belief system. Sorry, it's the truth.

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You're the perfect proof of how strong can be a malicious Jinn on a lost person. Those who refuse God as their Sole Master, God attributes to them a malicious Jinn as a Master to lose them forever and you're the perfect exemple of this kind of people.

Now, I think that this discussion cannot be more productive for you, therefore comes to its end.

Just wait, you'll see where your 3rd eye will lead you...

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Seems to me you are the blind one, no offense. Your words clearly show that your 3rd eye is wide open, but you do not understand it, so you let third-parties explain it to you as something evil, and so you deny your own nature and write your "vision" off as something else.

It's all the same thing. Truth can only be seen through the heart, not through the eyes, and definitely not through books or sermons. The Jinn is a myth. If you actually listened to your Master, he would have explained this to you. Open your ears. The universe is screaming at you.

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod

Originally posted by xiphias
Likewise. Tit for tat. Except my understanding is my own, not somebody else's.
So, we'll see.

No one think by himself, either your inspiration is from God either it's from Satan.

This is EXACTLY how the church pulled so many people. Humanity loves to place the blame on other things. So hey! If you did something bad, no it was not your fault. You didn't make the decision yourself. The devil made you. Need courage? Its TOTALLY impossible for you to get courage from yourself, you have to get it from god. (See what im saying?)

What you call the 3rd eye is no more than a malicious Jinn/devil who is playing with your mind, you cannot be your own guide.

My inspiration is from God and I have no 3rd eye, I don't see the future, I don't know the unknown, I only know what God reveals to me and God provides me all the means to verify it with concret facts.

*concrete. And a "Voice" from "god" does not signify a concrete "fact" except that you hear voices and it makes you think things.

As I've said, the Truth will stay and the forgery of the devils will vanish.

I cannot make see the blind ones, my message is meant for those who can see it.

edit on 8-11-2010 by TheTruthIsFromGod because: spelling

Yet another person who got the definition of "religion" wrong.

Sounds more like "cult" to me.

Originally posted by asperetty
listen, we will only perpetuate our ruin until someone here can help stop it. what i've been trying to ask you is to elaborate and speak with us. enlighten us a bit. please? don't believe for a second im being sarcastic either. just read and answer my questions the best you can that supports your beliefs in the most honest way.

You want me to help you, this is all the help I can provide you:

Watch my whole serie, investigate it as deep as you want in order to check for yourself that it tells the Truth of God (because it's the Truth).

Pray God, the Creator, your Master and mine in your head, ask him to show you the true path ask him for signs.

Read the Koran and obey it.

I am serious, if this help is not enough for you, if your prayers to God have not been answered, if your lecture of the Koran has not helped you, it just mean that you're lying, you're not sincere, you're not a fair person.

God always guide the fair people and let the bad ones in their perdition. God is already helping you by leading you to my post and to my series... It's as if you try to help someone and this person spit on your face, how do you want to help the one who refuse to be helped? God works just like that. God can guide everybody on earth, but God respects our freewill and let the people who refuse his help in their perdition. That's why he calls the them the "unfair people", they are those who exchange the Truth for the forgery, the justice for the unjustice, the light for the darkness...

Sorry man, I cannot help you more than I've already done. I am not your savior, God is and I am advocating you to turn to him and to pray him sincerly. Just ask yourself, are you a fair person? Are you obeying God in your everyday life? Are you a pervert one? Are you a liar? Are you thief? are you a cheater? are you an hypocrite? are you drug addict? are you evil??

Originally posted by TruthSeeker8300
In regard to the Qu'ran, which you use to support your belief of Raj Patel being THE antichrist. I wasn't going to comment further on this, but I just couldn't help to point out something hilarious & sad. Ok, I'm a Christian and I accept God is one. But, there is the Holy Trinity. Ok, in Islam God is one with no partners, no Son & Holy Spirit. YET, in the Qu'ran God refers to Himself as We. Well, who is We ? If God is just God, no Son and no Holy Spirit. Why would God speak of Himself in the third person? Is the God of Islam schizophrenic?

When God created man from the clay, He said ' Let Us create man in Our image'. Ok that word for God in the Hebrew is Elohim and points to the trinity. It seems to me the Qu'ran contradicts itself and does. That is all, thank you. I am up for discussion on Mr. Patel though.

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That's the "WE" of majesty, God is too glorious, he's far higher than a mere creature part of the creation, he's the Creator.

By the way, God/Allah repeats enough times that he's the Sole God and that he has not partner to not let any confusion about this subject.

Those who seek opposition when they read the Koran will be lost by the Koran instead of being guided, that's how you're behaving just right now...

Those who think they are smarter than God and judge God/Allah whereas they are the true criminals are the worst ones.

Originally posted by shiman
*concrete. And a "Voice" from "god" does not signify a concrete "fact" except that you hear voices and it makes you think things.
Sounds more like "cult" to me.

Don't make me say what I have not said.

I do not hear any voice, I do not speak to any spirit/Jinn/entity, God's revelation doesn't work like that. God is the true Master, he just says "be and it "is", in other words, God decides all the matters everyday and God make me see what I need to see (he makes me go on the right information, on the right place on the right moment), that's how it works.

Your belief is closer to possession and I am not possessed and I HEAR NO VOICE.

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod

Originally posted by shiman
*concrete. And a "Voice" from "god" does not signify a concrete "fact" except that you hear voices and it makes you think things.
Sounds more like "cult" to me.

Don't make me say what I have not said.

I do not hear any voice, I do not speak to any spirit/Jinn/entity, God's revelation doesn't work like that. God is the true Master, he just says "be and it "is", in other words, God decides all the matters everyday and God make me see what I need to see (he makes me go on the right information, on the right place on the right moment), that's how it works.

Your belief is closer to possession and I am not possessed and I HEAR NO VOICE.

Like I said. Pretend to take all of the responsibility away from the human, and the human will think they aren't doing anything, and they will think that it's all taken care of. When ultimately, YOU are the person who is responsible for YOUR actions. A true "god" will help you see that nobody is to blame but yourself, so you have to be sure you only do good under YOUR own will. Not the will of some "god".

Having a "god" tell you "do not worry. I will take care of you. I will be in control of all of your responsibilities and actions and all you have to do is watch and be at peace" sounds more like a demon to me.

My point is, Raj Patel is not "Maitreya". There is no "Maitreya" because that is just another object used to create fear and is used as just another focal point for falsely placed responsibility.

Originally posted by shiman
Like I said. Pretend to take all of the responsibility away from the human, and the human will think they aren't doing anything, and they will think that it's all taken care of. When ultimately, YOU are the person who is responsible for YOUR actions. A true "god" will help you see that nobody is to blame but yourself, so you have to be sure you only do good under YOUR own will. Not the will of some "god".

Having a "god" tell you "do not worry. I will take care of you. I will be in control of all of your responsibilities and actions and all you have to do is watch and be at peace" sounds more like a demon to me.

You really do not hear...

I have never said that I was a puppet or that the true believers are brainless people. I've not given my reason, my logic to obey blindly God, it's far the contrary, I think the whole day about my life and about the creation of God, God is not bul#ting us, as far you can think, as far you'll see that God always tell the Truth (if you do it sincerly, like the honest scientist do with science).

The smart people recognize their limits and see the perfection of their Creator and Master and therefore consult him for any of their decision, he's the best Guide. God's vision is infinite, our vision is limited, therefore it's legitimate to obey God's recommandations. It's like a child with his parents, he just know he's to obey them, and we'll be eternal children compared to God.

I am not denying that each person decides for his fate, the choice is:
1- to chose to obey God, in other word, to recognize the Truth (it's exactly the same thing).
2- to be your own guide and to risk to disobey God, to deny the Truth and to create your own Truth, like the lost people do, they are all lost in their own illusion/perdition.

Originally posted by shiman
Fear mongering. Need I say more?

Once again you illustrate your unjustice and ignorance.

This is a parable:
When a good father try to educate his child, he tries all the solutions to make him a good adult, and the last solution when your child is harming himself without even being aware of it is to force him to obey for his own good. Is it not a good father who acts like that?

That's how God behaves with us, the threat is the last solution which can save a lost person to destroy himself and the other people around him. God's threat is only a mercy towards us, God is far higher than us, he's created us from nothing when we didn't even exist, he's not the childish and evil God that you imagine

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod

Originally posted by shiman
Fear mongering. Need I say more?

Once again you illustrate your unjustice and ignorance.

This is a parable:
When a good father try to educate his child, he tries all the solutions to make him a good adult, and the last solution when your child is harming himself without even being aware of it is to force him to obey for his own good. Is it not a good father who acts like that?

That's how God behaves with us, the threat is the last solution which can save a lost person to destroy himself and the other people around him. God's threat is only a mercy towards us, God is far higher than us, he's created us from nothing when we didn't even exist, he's not the childish and evil God that you imagine

i dont think he is being ignorant. in fact i think he is paying a lot of attention to what you are saying. the problem is in what you are saying. your just saying things man. why are you saying these things?