Originally posted by MrWendal

What innuendo and what insults?? If you feel insulted by something I said, maybe you should look within yourself to find out why you feel that way. At no time have I insulted you.

Well someone is certainly sensitive and it's not me. Maybe your sensitive cause you have (admittedly) made predictions yourself that did not come to pass based on some random person's blog.

You haven't addressed my questions though.

I am insulted by being called sensitive. It's not within me, my HUMAN RIGHTS say that i have the right to be offended by anything i want. It's called political correctness, which i believe you are propagating.

It seems to me that you are similarly offended by the thoughts and actions of others, and would like them better controlled. if not voluntarily, then by force. Where have i heard that before?

And WRT your example of a good thread, perhaps it was, i flagged it too. I could also accuse it of baseless fear mongering. 5 years later and the fears expressed have still not come to anything? It's all VERY subjective.

Make suggestions and so on, but stop trying to censor ATS, or anywhere else, please.

OP, what kind of topics are you looking for on ATS?

I've always know ATS to be notorious for "alternative" topics and crazy conspiracy theories.

Are you looking for "evidence-based" topics?

Down-to-earth articles?

I'm wondering if you should stop reading ATS, and pick up a newspaper.

ATS may not be right for you.

Please tell us what topics you want to see!

Originally posted by harryhaller

You haven't addressed my questions though.

But I have addressed your questions. I'm guessing you simply do not like the answers.

I am insulted by being called sensitive. It's not within me, my HUMAN RIGHTS say that i have the right to be offended by anything i want. It's called political correctness, which i believe you are propagating.

I am far from a politically correct person and that is not what I am propagating. I am simply stating that we should take pride in this site. We should want the top story that is seen by even the most casual of visitors to be something that actually means something. Let it be reflective of the research that gets done here. The effort that is put in. The real work that is done to find any type of real evidence and get to the truth of the subject.

It seems to me that you are similarly offended by the thoughts and actions of others, and would like them better controlled. if not voluntarily, then by force. Where have i heard that before?

This is just laughable. I am not offended by anyone's thoughts but there are some actions I do find very offensive as any thinking person would. No where in any post I have made is there any mention of "controlling" anyone and please please please show me where I say anything remotely close to forcing anyone to do any thing.

And WRT your example of a good thread, perhaps it was, i flagged it too. I could also accuse it of baseless fear mongering. 5 years later and the fears expressed have still not come to anything? It's all VERY subjective.

I agree it was very subjective... but you know what else I saw in it? You know what makes that thread so "flag worthy"? It was a member who got off his backside and physically went to the place. It was based on what was witnessed, it had real evidence. It had something that is lacking in our 400+ flagged thread. It had real facts, but if interpretive evidence is what you like, think about this. That Simpson's cartoon had the clock which showed the time as 6:11 and the shape of the clock was in a 10. What if the date is actually 6-10-2011? or 10-6-2011? That is the difference.

Make suggestions and so on, but stop trying to censor ATS, or anywhere else, please.

And that is exactly what this thread is. It suggest using the subscribe feature over flagging. I am suggesting that we all take some responsibility in what we flag and why we flag it. Rather than flagging a thread we find interesting, we subscribe to it instead and see how it goes. If the thread then sparks good debate, critical thinking, real evidence in place of speculative nonsense..

then flag it to the top

Originally posted by harryhaller
That the subliminal content was intentionally inserted is beyond doubt. You are betraying your ignorance. Did you even read the thread you so soundly condemn?

Did I read every single post in the thread? No I did not. I did read a fair portion of the thread.

Now I am not condemning the thread. I have no issue with the thread. What I take issue with is that it received 400+ flags and due to those flags it will sit at the top of ATS, on the main board. Where it represents this site that touts "Deny Ignorance" and it is based on a cartoon.

The thread is not about subliminal messaging in cartoons. If that was the case, you could make an argument that it would be worth 400+ flags and a spot on the main board. It would certainly be an interesting topic and I am sure the evidence would be overwhelmingly in favor of such. However that thread is titled "Nuclear Attack in 3 days" it is not titled "Subliminal Messaging in Cartoons" and that is the difference.

Heres a good question...does everyone who agrees with this post want censorship simply because they dissagree? DONT READ THEM!!! I dont agree with them either but so what, they have a right to say what they wish. End of discussion.

I am new to this site and have noticed a high amount of prediction threads. Some were well done some were just plain coocoo. The OP is correct when they say that all these threads make us look a bit loony. I just hope that this doesn't cause the boy who cried wolf effect. It would be a shame if someone had some good info and it was dismissed as false due to all the other garbage that has been predicted as of late.

The fact that people are trying to second guess the next moves, is IMO symptomatic of a couple of significnt facts:

1. We have a government which murders at will and which constantly lies to the people.

2. There is an observed history of too many 'uncanny' 'coincidences' in many, many areas, including images from films and cartoons accurately forshadowing actual events. Coincidences which defy every single law of probability.

3. Thirdly, there is a known stimulus/response dynamic called partial reinforcement. This has been well researched and evidenced. By giving intermittent and unpredictable stimuli to the test subjects, anxiety levels were seen to increase. To me this is a technique which the government is using as a form of psychological terrorism/torture on the masses. The kind of responses you are condemning is the predictable response to this kind of aggression by TPTB. As such, it is an attempt to make sense of an increasingly illogical world. A compassionate response would be more appropriate.

And of course, there will also be other people with 'problems' who will enter the fray.


Not all 'prediction' threads fall into the same category, it is quite easy to differentiate between them.

I personally am not interested in predictions of the kind which have allegedly been 'channelled' by alleged 'higher beings'. However, I respect the right and the freedom of others to believe in those things and discuss them without being ridiculed. I am, and will continue to be vigilant about any 'coincidences' I see in the media which might conceivably be foreshadowing an actual event. And I will participate in any such thread on ATS as I wish.

I would like to make a request too, to ATS posters. Why can't you just live and let live?

What's with all the nasty, scornful, insulting that goes on towards others who participate in such threads.

These responses are redolent of the same kind of attitude the current gubberment has towards the people. Specifically, 'We don't like what they are saying. Imprison them, shoot them, but shut them up.'

Why not siimply avoid threads which don't interest you, or which seem ridiculous to you?

Can't you simply live and let live, or are you on a mission to re-make ATS in your own image?

After all, it's a public forum and I defend my right to participate in 'ridiculous' discussions if I so wish.

Brilliant thread. I agree with everything that you have said.


But doesn't this belong in the rants forum?




Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

Sounds like flag envy to me. Just remember, you can't really do anything with them.

Lots of people hated my thread but if you would have followed it page-for-page you might have seen a lot of brilliant minds coming together, researching, learning....

But hey, it got too many flags and stars, so who cares?