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Topic started on 29-6-2004 @ 10:38 AM by Hyperen
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Is this gun (M16 with Serbu) used in any armies?
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www.hatchergun.com...
I thought it might be something a civilian had made but it looks very professional and I didn't think civilians could get M16s.
Also, if it isn't used, would it be useful?
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reply posted on 29-6-2004 @ 10:55 AM by koji_K
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are you sure it's an m-16? there are plenty of m-16 'clones' available easily on the civilian market.
-koji K.
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reply posted on 29-6-2004 @ 10:59 AM by UK Wizard
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i think i've seen american troops with the M16 part of the gun, not the shotgun part though
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reply posted on 29-6-2004 @ 11:17 AM by E_T
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I would think it as civilian made.
It doesn't look
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reply posted on 29-6-2004 @ 01:37 PM by Hyperen
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Originally posted by koji_K
are you sure it's an m-16? there are plenty of m-16 'clones' available easily on the civilian market.

Well it says on the site that it is a  M-16w/SBS  and an  NFA Firearm 
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reply posted on 29-6-2004 @ 02:41 PM by cyberpilot
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Civillians can obtain and legally own M-16 TYPE weapons, but unless he/she holds a class 3 federal firearms license the fully automatic version is not
legal...
as to the weapon pictured I think its some kind of joke because ergonomically it would be like wrestling an octopus...look at it...it has 3 pistol
grips, the most forward being some 30+ inches from the buttstock
a user of low stature would have a difficult time to say the least to recharge the weapon after firing, IMHO...I doubt this particular weapon has seen
any viable military use.
CP
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reply posted on 29-6-2004 @ 11:46 PM by Wudman
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It is a class III weapon regardless because the shotgun is sawed off. I have read about these, but don't see much use in one, US Army uses either a
Mossberg or Remington pump shotgun. (The one on the rifle is a Remington).
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reply posted on 30-6-2004 @ 12:00 AM by ShadowXIX
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Reminds me of that gun the Indian guy in the predator movie used same concept with a shotgun under a M-16/AR-15 I know a guy that lives by me that has
a shotgun a mossberg 500 with a MAC10 on it for the front grip it pretty wierd looking.
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reply posted on 30-6-2004 @ 01:35 AM by cyberpilot
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Sorry Wudman...thats no remington...its a serbu shorty
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reply posted on 30-6-2004 @ 02:00 AM by Wudman
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Sorry, look at the bolt. That is a Remington. This is a Serbu Shorty:
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See the differences in the bolt and the trigger guard?
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reply posted on 30-6-2004 @ 02:04 AM by cyberpilot
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That is a serbu SUPER shorty the reciever is based on a M'berg a remington has more takedown pins
Also the remington safety is in the trigger group
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WHOA big fella!, I apologize Wudman...I confused my 1100 with my 870
the shorty is built on a 870 anvil.... but the super is indeed a M'berg
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reply posted on 30-6-2004 @ 02:11 AM by ShadowXIX
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Are shotguns like that classifed as Destructive device like the USAS-12 or the Striker-12 or Streetsweeper?
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reply posted on 30-6-2004 @ 11:31 AM by Wudman
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Shotguns like this are classified as Class III weapons under the National Firearms Act of 1934. Barrel length has to be at least 18 inches and total
shotgun length has to be at least 26 inches for it to not be a NFA gun.
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