ENOUGH! Manners in the Aliens/UFO Forum and those who habitually debunk., page 20

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reply posted on 13-5-2012 @ 02:31 AM by Wertdagf

reply to post by Majic

LOL yeah i get what you mean. when i envision it... its more like your watching a horror movie and the only black guy says "im going out to grab some beer" everyone whos seen these movies before mutters under their breath "hes gonna die...".

Although few people get as disgusted wth predicatble plots as i do.

reply posted on 13-5-2012 @ 06:22 PM by Retro~Burn

Originally posted by Majic
Fortunately, the two are not mutually exclusive, and indeed, a lack of civility almost always distracts from the topic at hand, which in turn works against the truth.

So even from a purely utilitarian perspective, courtesy still wins compared to the alternative.

It depends how far ingrained one's belief is and whether it can be separated from the individual. Thus a reposte will invariably be more 'personal' if one feels their belief is a part of their being as it were. All I say is the 'scientific method' must be upheld at all times, if attacks are made upon those who cherish it, then it must be held even higher. It's one feature of our species which has clearly defined us and separated from other 'beasts' of the world. It should be held in utter reverence and if that means making others uncomfortable then fine.

The problem I find typically with those that make extraordinary claims is they become 'uppity' if you suggest testing their claims. There are experiments one can create in order to do so. Yet sometimes when this is proposed, you get a rather dismissive answer such as "science cannot comprehend the phenomenon" and then they'll link you to some video about a guy speaking a load of rubbish (trash/garbage). It just becomes testing.

reply posted on 22-5-2012 @ 02:47 PM by Unidentified_Objective

Is this actually a thing? The forum moderators/administrators would (In not so many words) like to minimize the scrutiny and skepticism? I hope this thread is in jest. The UFO research field is stigmatized and ridiculed precisely because of the frequency of hoaxes and the gullible individuals who tout some of the really obvious ones as proof of extraterrestrials. I'm an enthusiast....but, skepticism is a MUST. All cases should be dissected and scrutinized from every angle. If every joe here agreed and happily patted every member posting a thred on the back, this place would be a useless, one-sided cult. Thankfully, opinions are for the most part, welcomed. And yes, ridiculous claims should be ridiculed. I don't see why they should not. Because they hurt people's feelings? What the hell?

edit on 22-5-2012 by Unidentified_Objective because: typo

reply posted on 22-5-2012 @ 03:31 PM by Majic

Unjustified Frivolous Objections

reply to post by Unidentified_Objective

The quest for misunderstanding continues...

As has been pointed out ad nauseam, from the very first post in this thread right up to this one, and repeatedly ignored by an astounding number of members, skepticism is quite welcome in the Aliens & UFOs, now, as always, ever and anon.

All ATSers are invited and encouraged to share their candid opinions about any topic discussed in this forum, pro, con or indifferent, and no one is ever expected to agree to any opinion they disagree with. Many of us, myself included, are professed skeptics and loathe to accept any claim without convincing, credible evidence to support it. We expect no less of anyone else, and certainly will not give anyone grief for expressing skepticism about any subject.

What is not welcome here, or anywhere else on ATS for that matter, are ad hominem attacks, trolling or any of the other odious behavior that all too often results in account bans. That's what this thread is about, as even the most casual review of the OP and thread body will quickly confirm.

The reason "debunkers" have been specifically mentioned has to do with the overwhelming preponderance of problems which result when some individuals take it upon themselves to insult, harass and ridicule people who come to the Aliens & UFOs forum to discuss -- *gasp* -- aliens and UFOs. It's a real problem that we have to deal with on a continual basis.

Whatever one's opinions about the topics discussed or their credibility, such behavior is never appropriate for any reason whatsoever, which is why there are so many reminders about it.

Members come to these forums to talk about subjects that they can't discuss in many other venues precisely because of such harassment. If we were to allow it to take place unchallenged, we might as well shut the forum down. Rather than let a minority of ill-behaved members do that, we prefer to defend the forum instead and correct such misconduct as required.

Any argument in favor of allowing anyone to ridicule, ostracize, insult or abuse any member for any reason is absolutely unacceptable, and such activity leads rapidly away from continued participation in our forums. Because we are often faced with ignorance as a defense when we call such misbehavior to account, we do our best to ensure such ignorance is denied before trouble arises.

I find it amazing that such a basic expectation as courtesy meets such stiff opposition from some members. It's irrational and incompatible with basic norms for civil discourse.

Perhaps most ironically of all, and as this thread amply illustrates, the case for self-justified rudeness in this forum has already been thoroughly, extensively and exhaustively debunked.

reply posted on 24-5-2012 @ 06:51 AM by Chamberf=6

reply to post by Majic

Perhaps a simple change of the title would help to clear up the repeated misunderstandings?

reply posted on 25-5-2012 @ 12:45 AM by NorthKorea

PROJECTS WENT DOWN THE DRAIN!

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