100% PROOF That All 2012 Doomsday Predictions Are Invalid & Just Plain Wrong --- News Link, page 1
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Topic started on 7-11-2010 @ 11:50 AM by EyeHeartBigfoot
Below is a snippet and link to a news story about Russia's Putin doing a marketing campaign for the upcoming 2012 elections and the First Ever FORMULA ONE AUTO RACE which Debuts in 2014.

- How many threads here have claimed that the Anti-Christ/Devil is Putin?
- How many different variations of 2012 world destruction?
- How many times have we smashed our heads against the computer monitor screaming "2012? End Of The World? Are People Really That Stupid? Followed by your own re-enactment of Nancy Kerrigan's Why? Why? Why? as she is hauled off in the meatwagon"
- Finally, how many times have the 2012 believers claimed that every future event is just a distraction from the "REAL" Truth about 2012.

Well, This is 100% verifiable proof that at least Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin plans on still being here to at least 2014 to witness his grandest creation yet. The Formula One Grand Prix from 2014 in the southern city of Sochi, under a plan championed by Putin.

This man is the ultimate megalomaniac and do you think for on second that he would have any of his macho stunts derailed by anything a simple as the mere end of the world, you have not been paying attention.

The man is sooooo compensating for something( feel free to replace the word something with your favorite miniature phallic related word here) he makes some of the idiots on USA Reality Television Shows seem semi-normal.

Russia's Putin Races Formula One Car In New Stunt


by Stuart Williams
Russia's Putin Races Formula One Car In New Stunt


MOSCOW (AFP) – In a helmet emblazoned with the emblem of Russia and reaching a speed of 240 kilometres (150 miles) an hour, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin Sunday burned rubber on a racing circuit in a Formula One car. The high-speed session -- unthinkable for almost any other world leader -- was the latest in a series of widely publicised hardman outings for Putin as he seeks to cement his image as the Russian strongman ahead of 2012 elections. It was also aimed at raising the profile of the sport in Russia as the country prepares to host its first Formula One Grand Prix from 2014 in the southern city of Sochi, under a plan championed by Putin.


One note of caution: It could just be his own version of a Bucket List and wants to immortalize himself by having his name forever emblazed in Formula One.




reply posted on 7-11-2010 @ 12:19 PM by PuterMan
reply to post by EyeHeartBigfoot



This man is the ultimate megalomaniac and do you think for on second that he would have any of his macho stunts derailed by anything a simple as the mere end of the world, you have not been paying attention.

The man is sooooo compensating for something( feel free to replace the word something with your favorite miniature phallic related word here) he makes some of the idiots on USA Reality Television Shows seem semi-normal.


In what way is he any more a megalomaniac than say the POTUS? In what way does Putin's plans for 2014 have any bearing on what may be beyond his ability to prevent in 2012? Why are his actions compensating for something? It might just be that we do not all subscribe to the American myopic view on the world, or to American psycho-babble.

If was forced to chose between Putin or POTUS, I would 100% go for Putin.
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reply posted on 7-11-2010 @ 05:03 PM by EyeHeartBigfoot
reply to post by PuterMan



Thanks for your intelligent response and question that may bring confusion to the main point in the OP.

I did not think this news story was worthy of being submitted to the ATS BREAKING ALTERNATIVE NEWS Forum and am attempting to show cause for ending the vast 2012 End of the World speculation by offering a story which Russia and the Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin have great pride and must have worked tremendously hard to accomplish.

I in no way am singling him out over any other high ranking world political figure. Just commenting on all the wild and impressive hobbies he has acquired as of late. Formula One Race Cars are not something just any 58 year-old man can hope into and drive 150mph and I am actually very impressed and a tad jealous.

As for our POTUSA, he is currently spending close to a $200 Million tax dollars a day x10 days overseas - while his country is suffering the absolute worse economic declined in his or my lifetime, but that is sadness for a different ATS Thread.

You must admit that Putin makes quite an incredible and very public spectacle of all of his latest manly ventures. He is a very proud older man, as he should be, who is doing many younger person activities which seem a little over-the-top and reckless. Question here is WHY? Many of these activities could take a very powerful and influential man away from the millions of Russian citizens who need his leadership. I state he is compensating, but that is not the point of this thread!

If there is any man on this planet that has inside information on anything and or everything that has, is and will happen on a worldwide scale, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin would sit atop a very short list.

I apologize if my attempt at humor offended you or any of my fellow ATS Members and was just trying to bring a lighter perspective than the typical doom and gloom of a majority of other 2012 Threads.

The point of this thread is to show that not everyone thinks the world will end or become drastically different on or after December 21, 2012 and are planning to live and prosper for many years to come.

Thank you for helping me bring clarity to the OP and as a fellow Irishman, I will raise my glass to you and enjoy,

Cheers,

t


reply posted on 7-11-2010 @ 05:23 PM by lestweforget
reply to post by EyeHeartBigfoot



But this is where people who know or think they know all is not well with this period in time can come and share ideas and discuss such potential problems. Look the bottom line is the sun is going to align itself with the centre of the galaxy, and the worlds leading astronomers are silent on the issue. Why isnt there any public discussion on this issue? Maybe they know what happened last time this occured.


reply posted on 7-11-2010 @ 05:40 PM by EyeHeartBigfoot
Originally posted by MrAnnunaki
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define putin and 2012 please



Oh my God!!! CLASSIC -- Absolutely Too Bleeping Funny.

Enough said, I salute you.


reply posted on 7-11-2010 @ 06:20 PM by PuterMan
reply to post by EyeHeartBigfoot



Well I do have to say this. Putin is 4 years younger than me and able - because of position, money - to do things I would love to do. If had the opportunity to hop into an F1 race car wild horses would not hold me back.

Don't make the assumption that because he is an older man the urge to do dangerous and possibly insane things has passed, and it is nothing what so ever to do with compensation for anything.

He is a 'hard' man yes, but if you listen to his politics he is also a very clever man and probably wily as well. True he has communist leanings, but I don't actually think he would want to see the good old bad old days of the USSR come back in. I do think that Russia is fed up with all the grigging that goes on by America.

Unfortunately, whilst like you I would like to prove all the 2012 doomsday people to be wrong, I cannot say that Putin's plans would accomplish that. Indeed until the day arrives there will always be people who believe it will happen just as people also believe in an equally unprovable Divine Being of one type or another. They just love a bit of doom!

I think it is a simple enough matter to be able to dismiss Nibiru, but much more difficult to dismiss say the Galactic plane. Now we have scientists compounding the issue saying there is going to be the mother of all solar storms in 2012. Then again they said solar cycle 24 was going to be bad and it has just ambled along not doing much of anything.

You cannot hope to convince all the people, it just won't happen. All you can do is to prepare for the mad rush of idiots and the potential rash of suicides that will come and weather the storm. 2013 will be a good year. I raise my glass to that and to you.
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reply posted on 7-11-2010 @ 09:39 PM by stereologist
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That is a weird article because it never names the astronomers. It mentions people, but never connects them to the introductory paragraph.

I did find the quote attributed to Fisher at a number of places on the web, but I can't find out when or where or in what context the quotes were made.

I have found places that attribute part of the quotes to different groups.

“We know it is coming but we don’t know how bad it is going to be,” Dr Richard Fisher, the director of Nasa's Heliophysics division, said in an interview with The Daily Telegraph.

Other places attribute the same quote to other interviews.

The quote does not assign a date only that the Sun is going to act up over the next 5 billion years and will do so every few decades so the event will happen. There is nothing I can find that suggests this is in reference to any particular year, or even the next solar maximum.

In June of this year Fisher did state that the sun's activity will increase and that our technology, especially satellite based systems, are more prone to increased solar activity.
As the Sun Awakens, NASA Keeps a Wary Eye on Space Weather

It seems that the article you linked to was just another over the top hyperbole I've seen from that particular "news group".


reply posted on 7-11-2010 @ 09:42 PM by stereologist
reply to post by lestweforget



Look the bottom line is the sun is going to align itself with the centre of the galaxy, and the worlds leading astronomers are silent on the issue.

It's a meaningless New Age thingy and not something of interest to astronomers. There are all sorts of alignments in our solar system. They happen every month. So what. It's nothing more than fun to know.



reply posted on 8-11-2010 @ 02:39 PM by UndeadDinosaur
Originally posted by Haydn_17
Not sure if you have read this.

Might change your mind a bit

"Melbourne, Aug 26 (ANI): Astronomers are predicting that a massive solar storm, much bigger in potential than the one that caused spectacular light shows on Earth earlier this month, is to strike our planet in 2012 with a force of 100 million hydrogen bombs."

in.news.yahoo.com...


The NCAR paper cited in that article was published as a worst-case scenario and assumed zero preparation or forewarning. With so many birds watching the Sun now, that scenario is very unlikely. Power services can brace for impact, as it were. Most satellites are hardened as it is, and they can be powered down to prevent or minimize damage. Also, flares can occur at any time. This isn't to say solar events are not a concern, but they have turned into an object of hysteria for 2012 doomsayers, which is mildly amusing since the NOAA SWPC projection for the next maximum is spring 2013. Mind you, a prediction of solar maximum is not the same thing as predicting any particular solar event. Your article implies otherwise, and that's just not correct.

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Originally posted by lestweforget
Look the bottom line is the sun is going to align itself with the centre of the galaxy


That claim doesn't even make sense. You can draw a line between any two points, at any time. Not a big deal. If you mean that the Sun will align with the galactic center relative to Earth, that is simply wrong. The galactic center does not lie within Earth's orbital plane. There can be no such alignment. We're close twice per year, during the solstices, but never exact. In December 2012, the Sun will be several times its apparent diameter off from the galactic center (Sgr A), as viewed from Earth. There's nothing remarkable about this, and you can see for yourself in freely available planetarium software like Stellarium.

and the worlds leading astronomers are silent on the issue. Why isnt there any public discussion on this issue?


What issue? You mean the solstice "alignment" that happens twice per year? You can learn all about this in any introductory astronomy course.

Maybe they know what happened last time this occured.


And what was that? The last solstice was a mere five months ago. The last approximate "alignment" with the galactic center was only about ten and a half months ago, with another due next month.

When will the experts acknowledge that they have no idea what this
galactic alignments effects will be or do they know what really
happened six and a half thousand years ago?


Experts know we have an approximate alignment between the Sun, Earth and galactic center twice per year, and an exact alignment is impossible because the galactic center is not in Earth's orbital plane. They also know these approximate alignments have no significance beyond being seasonal markers.

What exactly do you think occurred "six and a half thousand years ago?"

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Originally posted by PuterMan
I think it is a simple enough matter to be able to dismiss Nibiru, but much more difficult to dismiss say the Galactic plane.


Why? We're nowhere near the galactic plane (though perhaps dozens of light years is "near" in galactic terms), nor will we be in 2012.

Now we have scientists compounding the issue saying there is going to be the mother of all solar storms in 2012.


Scientists have been warning about solar flares and CMEs for years. Sun-gazing satellites with a 24/7 view of our local star will help immensely. At least people are discussing the issue now, but it's sad to see so many doomsayers latched onto it.


reply posted on 8-11-2010 @ 03:32 PM by stereologist
reply to post by UndeadDinosaur



Thanks for the informative statement. I was not sure about the article in question and it did appear to be out of context. I am not surprised that doomsayers have latched onto these ideas since there is so little for doom saying in 2012.
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