Originally posted by v3_exceed
Actually, I think I'm hitting it dead on. Not to make light of each persons individual plight, but we all suffer the same through out our lives. We
all feel unloved at times, we all feel the world is against us at times. This is part of what we call life.
As you point out, people who contemplate or attempt suicide often relate that there was no one to turn to, but perhaps it is because that suicide
wouldn't listen that there were people to turn to. Even in this thread there is an outpouring of people who will defend the potential suicide, offer
help a shoulder etc etc. I believe this falls on deaf ears because as the poster pointed out they had visited 20+ councilors within a year to no
avail. Surely 20+ trained people might have said something of value during that time.
In order to be helped we must first WANT help. Then we must be willing to trust in that help and work for ourselves to make our lives better. When a
person will not do even that to help themselves why would anyone have compassion for that? I say it's selfish because I have seen the fallout of
suicide and those they leave behind. How are those kids any less deserving of compassion as they did nothing to cause their own misery?
Often we are told that the suicide feels as though they are drowning. This is a good analogy as if you were in fact drowning wouldn't you grab the
first hand that was stretched out to you? Of course you would, but the suicide does not. They ignore the hands and give up and die.
I can certainly appreciate your stance with regards the 'victims' of suicide, since those left behind to 'handle' the aftermath are most
definitely just that - its victims.
Though I was merely approaching the subject from, or attempting to through, the 'eyes' of those who contemplate, consider and/or attempt such.
No. I don't agree with suicide as an 'option', per se, as I personally feel there's Always another way out, another 'option' available than just
throwing in the towel on the single most precious thing afforded each and every one of us - our life, opportunity.
I could never even contemplate nor consider doing so as there's always tomorrow, another day, another sunrise, etc. which with each and every one
we're presented an opportunity to right the wrongs, move forward, put the past behind us, what have you.
Unfortunately, and as calstorm mentions, there are those who feel they're actually doing others a favor by bowing out of this realm. Whether that be
due to circumstances beyond their control such as a terminal disease and/or perhaps they feel they've dug such a hole for themselves via poor
decisions, addiction, etc. that they see it as the only way to escape yet all the while eliminating others of the burden the suicide sees themselves
as being. (?)
A mixed up, near inconceivable thought process for me, but apparently not for the many who act on such day in and day out. Sad? Of course it is. A
'relief'? Apparently so, for some.
I fully agree with you that the 'victims' of suicide are those left behind to handle and deal with the aftermath.
I guess what I don't agree with is the idea that it could have been avoided if only 'they' had reached out or accepted 'help' from others. There
are far too many dynamics involved to simply wrap the sum total into any one 'package', if you will. (?)
Sometimes, due to mental health issues that have gone either unnoticed or undiagnosed, as well as in cases where the individual may not have had
readily available access to familial/friend's support due to their specific situation or location at the time.
In the end,
It's not always a matter of the individual having entirely given up on life or themselves, but more a case of their feeling of having no one there
for them at That moment, imo.
An unfortunate scenario no matter how you look at it, with the ultimate answers to said questions, queries and contemplations lying solely with those