The Black Zone: How the Progressive Movement Created the Modern Ghetto

reply to post by MikeNice81


It didn't seem that way to me. Informative post not attacking. I was just clarifying that I was using what I knew as an example. I can't speak for places I've never lived in.

reply to post by sisgood


Because if you can keep entire populations dumbed down, dependent, and swooned with social justice BS, you can pretty much guarantee a locked electorate thus retaining power.

It is the same school of thought as those who didn't allow black slaves to learn how to read, doing so would lead to revolt. Then came Jim Crow, and then the Progressive Era...Today they dupe their followers into believing that this is the fault of well-off white people, when it is, in fact, a product of statist ideas brought to us by the Progressive movement. They have the same legals structure in place today that they did back then, only now it is for political expediency.

Middle-Class Living Standards [1896]

When Professor Woodrow Wilson was trying to persuade Frederick Jackson Turner of the University of Wisconsin to come to Princton in 1896, Mrs. Wilson set up a sample monthly budget for a professor with a salary of $3,500 a year.

75.00 "Food and lights"
29.00 [color=gold]Servants
42.00 Rent
12.00 Coal
$4.00 Water
162.00

-A History of The United States, Since 1865
T. Harry Williams, Louisiana State University
Richard N. Current, University of North Carolina at Greensboro
Frank Friedel, Harvard University
(c) 1959

The official bad guy back then was the Monopoly,
child labor, and rapid technological development.
The Progressive moment started out elite and
didn't gain grass roots support until later.


David Grouchy

Alfred D. Chandler, Jr., has made a study of the social, political, and
occupational backgrounds of 260 leaders of the Progressive party of
1912-people who were national committee-men or state chairmen, or
who gave time and money. He found ninety-five businessmen,
seventy-five lawyers, thirty-six editors, nineteen college professors,
seven authors, six professional social workers, and a scatering of
men in several professions. Only one was a labor-union leader; there
was not a single farmer, white-collar worker, or salaried manager for
one of the new large-scale corporations. On the whole, Chandler
observes, the Progressive leaders had retained an individualism free
from the restraints of the new corporate institutionalism, and thus
represented, "in spite of their thoroughly urban backgrounds, the
ideas of the older, more rural America."

-Elting E. Morison, ed.
The Letters of Theodore Roosevelt
Cambridge, Mass.
Harvard University Press, 1954
Vol 8, pp. 1462-1465

I find this OP thouroughly awesome because I suspected this is how ghettos started but never saw any official data on it. Thank you.

I don't think that zoning laws were the issue.

I think that the single biggest contributor to the downfall of African Americans was welfare.

The good intentions of people often create situations that are the direct opposite of what they set out to do.
Welfare is a classic case of this. Who would argue against a safety net for Americans? No one.

But, when you get politicians involved it can get ugly fast. We can't have fraud in our new welfare program. Therefore, you can't get welfare if there is a able bodied work age male in the house. That led to the unmarried birth rate of 85% in the African American community.

Perhaps it was well intended but it backfired.

reply to post by Wildbob77


Well that's not the point. The point was to show how zoning laws were used to create the ghettos of today. Welfare is what is helping to perpetuate the ghettos.