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Was there something onboard the Edmund Fitzgerald?

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posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 01:57 AM
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Or was it simply a case of total incompetence with American ship builders.

hmm?

Must be a structural thing with you Yanks. We regularly get 150K winds off the west of the island this time of year. (Crowding cat 2 hurricane force) - with no issues to speak of, nor do you read about it in the news.

Carry on.

[SNIP]



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edit on Sat Nov 6 2010 by DontTreadOnMe because: Ad Hominem Attacks And You



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 02:02 AM
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Great song. Interesting video. Makes me very homesick for Michigan.

Your last statement will go un-checked, except to say Go Wings.



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 02:03 AM
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November 11th
29 crew onboard. 2+9=11.


I've only just heard of this incident now so I'm kind of on the fence with this one.

Cheers
Brady



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 02:14 AM
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It was a ore carrier and yes it was fully loaded.

The ship sank because the hatch covers blew off in the gale force winds and allowed the water coming over the bow of the ship to enter the hold where the ore was stored.

Hundreds of ships have sank on Lake Superior.

It is a very deep lake,much deeper than the others.

It was a accident not incompetence of the crew.

And before you bad mouth Americans study your history.

You would be speaking German if us Yanks hadn't come bailed you all out.

We had to give your army all new equipment because for some reason you all left yours on the beach in France!

Must be why the Brits and France are going to share one army?

Is the joint flag going to be a white flag?



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 02:22 AM
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Lightfoot played in my hometown this summer, but I missed it. Lame I know.
For the record though.. Sundown is a better tune.
www.youtube.com...
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posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 02:27 AM
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Let's see! Who built the unsinkable Titanic? The British.
Also do the Canadians even build ships, except canoes?



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by Oneolddude
And before you bad mouth Americans study your history.
You would be speaking German if us Yanks hadn't come bailed you all out.
We had to give your army all new equipment because for some reason you all left yours on the beach in France!
Must be why the Brits and France are going to share one army?
Is the joint flag going to be a white flag?


Excuse me but didn't Prescott Bush through his bank in NYC plus the oil companies and IBM, fund Hitler, along with the Rothschilds, Rockefeller and the Bank of England? Duh. I guess it's something like when I was NCO in South Africa working for CI in the mid/late 80's and the US State department sold the weapons to Saddam to invade Kuwait? Hi Pik, hi Magnus, hi Eddie ;-) Duh. Isn't this the standard protocol, sell the guy your setting up everything he needs so you can sell more and then knock them down later and acquire their resources?

Admittedly, the US was a major contributor to resolving Hitler's war, but the US also funded Hitler as well through US corporations and no one was ever tried with treason. Duh. maybe if those US and British traitors had not of funded Hitler, the war could have been contained by England and France quickly?

You might want to read some "real" history. Next, you'll tell me Pearl Harbour and 911 were both surprises.

Cheers - Dave
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posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 03:11 AM
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What is so funny about 29 crew members dead?
Maybe you should make that laughy face to these
mens children....I think they would slap it off your



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 03:33 AM
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Don`t know where the math thing comes into play here but it was 29 people that died not 11. And that makes you happy?

www.ssefo.com...



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 04:57 AM
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Originally posted by Oneolddude
It was a ore carrier and yes it was fully loaded.

The ship sank because the hatch covers blew off in the gale force winds and allowed the water coming over the bow of the ship to enter the hold where the ore was stored.

Hundreds of ships have sank on Lake Superior.

It is a very deep lake,much deeper than the others.

It was a accident not incompetence of the crew.

And before you bad mouth Americans study your history.

You would be speaking German if us Yanks hadn't come bailed you all out.

We had to give your army all new equipment because for some reason you all left yours on the beach in France!

Must be why the Brits and France are going to share one army?

Is the joint flag going to be a white flag?


What in the name of sweet jesus has the crap above to do with the OP.
For a start the OP'er isnt British, hes Canadian for gods sake.
The only thing that went down with the Edmund Fitzgerald was this guys common sense.
Please read the OP again, Thanks.



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 07:29 AM
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The thread was posted with a misleading title, the use of the word yanks,
a reference to an island, and a lot of silly child like remarks about americans.
Then a music video imho of a good song. The poster wanted to start a fight
and has now draged you into it.



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by Oneolddude
It was a accident not incompetence of the crew.

And before you bad mouth Americans study your history.

You would be speaking German if us Yanks hadn't come bailed you all out.

We had to give your army all new equipment because for some reason you all left yours on the beach in France!

Must be why the Brits and France are going to share one army?

Is the joint flag going to be a white flag?


===

Oneolddude:

I don't question the crew, I question your marine engineering building standards - at the time. TOTALLY unacceptable for this to have occurred. As mentioned, we regularly experience far more aggressive weather here on and off Vancouver Island, but our Esquimalt built craft have never had such issues.

And PS - don't you EVER question the Canadian forces commitment and loses over recent times over the past 100 years.

For if you do, you are nothing less than an ignorant yank fool. Grab a brain and do some homework here.



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 09:58 PM
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posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 10:03 PM
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well I will give you have a military not very well trained and great at being cannon fodder lol.. and I don't see them improving any time soon..


I don't ever see them braking top 20 www.globalfirepower.com...



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 10:28 PM
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...i thought this would be an actual discussion of the event - silly me...

...heres the most basic info, in case anyone is interested...

en.wikipedia.org...

SS Edmund Fitzgerald (nicknamed "Mighty Fitz," "The Fitz," or "The Big Fitz") was an American Great Lakes freighter launched on June 8, 1958. At the time of its launching, it was one of the first boats to be at or near maximum "St Lawrence Seaway Size" which was 730 feet (220 m) long and 75 feet (23 m) wide. From its launching in 1958 until 1971 the Fitzgerald continued to be one of the largest boats on the Great Lakes.[1]

On November 10, 1975, while traveling on Lake Superior during a gale, the Fitzgerald sank suddenly in Canadian waters approximately 17 miles (15 nmi; 27 km) from the entrance of Whitefish Bay at a depth of 530 feet (160 m). Although it had reported having some difficulties before the accident, the Fitzgerald sank without sending any distress signals. Its crew of 29 perished in the sinking with no bodies being recovered. When the wreck was found, it was discovered that the Fitzgerald had broken in two.

The sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald is the most famous disaster in the history of Great Lakes shipping.


...for more, click the link above or simply google "edmund fitzgerald"... its WAY more than a song...



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by Oneolddude
And before you bad mouth Americans study your history.


Forgive him...how would someone on the Left Coast understand how Lake Superior comes up?
Cuz it does.



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 10:32 PM
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posted on Nov, 7 2010 @ 01:30 AM
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now just because I think Canada is a bunch of low life morons with a unskilled military does that in any way imply that I'm from the united states?
way to go...



posted on Nov, 9 2010 @ 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by Oneolddude
It was a ore carrier and yes it was fully loaded.

The ship sank because the hatch covers blew off in the gale force winds and allowed the water coming over the bow of the ship to enter the hold where the ore was stored.

Hundreds of ships have sank on Lake Superior.


Oneolddude:

Thus my point, you yanks clearly did not have competence building capable craft for those waters if that occurred.

Us Canucks have never had structural failures like that off the west coast in much more brutal conditions.

And I might remind you that the only reason Britain didn't fall during WW2 is because of the Canadian supplier ships. You #ing yanks were nowhere on that theatre.

Grab a few coins old man.



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 02:58 PM
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