I see dead people...with bug out bags, page 3

reply to post by PayMeh

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I found it, but there is only one, and its mine!

Seriously, I've been shooting for roughly 42 years. I've lived a good portion of my life without modern conveniences. City folk would not fare well out in the "boonies" with little bit 'o nothing, but those of us who've lived old fashioned will have a better chance. I'm sure each and every one of us with a BOB also has a well stocked, prepared home but staying put isn't always an option. We like to be prepared enough - in advance - so that roughing it isn't as rough as it might be.

reply to post by kadyr80

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I agree but you have to keep in mind its best to move to a secluded area. Chances are your home will get ransacked and you will be easily seen. Also, what if you are on the run...alien encounter,bombings. The only thing you can carry is your backpack of supplies you can easily haul. Gun will eventually run out of ammo but a knife can be used a long time if kept well. Every disaster is differnet so we should be prepared for every scenario just in case. Star and flagged!

reply to post by SeenMyShare

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had to give you a star for that one.. !!!
Ya made me laugh out loud at work.. hehe.. I really want one of those trees!!!

reply to post by kadyr80

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What
What freaking planet are you from? Your apocalyptic vision of the future doesn't really bode well in my eyes! This sort of scaremongering is unproductive/ false and totally anathema in the great scheme of things! Where's the positivity and hope? Do you want us all to just give up and die........ "not with a bang, but with a whimper!"

reply to post by tjack

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Do you like killing folk?

reply to post by SeenMyShare

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LOL!! My ex will be ecstatic to know her search wasn't just a cheap laugh for me!! Seriously that's epic. We may have just started a new internet catch phrase!

Back on topic, as everyone has said in one way or another, the key thing will be to play to your own strengths. Mine just happen to be minimalistic in nature. This means I've specialized in small, fast, efficient shelters; living off the land through passive hunting; local edible plant life; and tactical positioning where flight trumps fight 90% of the time.

Now the problem with defending your house comes from most locations being horrible tactical locations. Lets address these. Landscaping provides cover for combatants. Yards give 360 degrees of possible attacking lines. Houses give very few fall back locations and even fewer emergency exits that can't easily be covered. Surveillance for the assailants is easy. It's hard for you to be alerted to approaching dangers.

reply to post by wigit

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Now't wrong with Haggis mate... provided it's dead!

reply to post by kadyr80

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There's more to survival than having an organized and well-rounded bug-out-bag. People think that they're prepared when they have one, and stop on this essential but too emphasized step in survival.

I'm of the opinion bug-out-bags will be plentiful when worse comes to worse & TSHTF. Taking them off of an unfortunate corpse will be all too easy.

Do more than just pack that bug-out-bag!

Originally posted by Culdeeson
reply to post by kadyr80

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What
What freaking planet are you from? Your apocalyptic vision of the future doesn't really bode well in my eyes! This sort of scaremongering is unproductive/ false and totally anathema in the great scheme of things! Where's the positivity and hope? Do you want us all to just give up and die........ "not with a bang, but with a whimper!"

Hi,

Many people still don't get it.... getting healthy, learning your inner strengths, learning to grow food, learning to find clean water, learning to be self-directed are all Positives.

That people will be forced to find these things in themselves during very difficult times to come, is likewise a massive Positive.

We do not grow from staying in our comfort zones, we grow from getting out of them, from being pushed by situations to dig deeper inside to find what we need to maintain further growth, Without difficulty, without the events that are approaching we simply will not grow out of the comfort zones we all love so much.

Anyone can extrapolate past and current trends to find where we are heading as a race on this world. We run on a mindset of Might is Right, and that is gradually working its way toward its natural conclusion. And, it cannot complete with a whimper because that is opposed to the basis of this mindset, so it has to complete with a full-tilt display of it's capability... particularly if humanity is to be finished with the need for this experience of Might is Right.

This is not doom and gloom.. this is an opportunity to grow and become self-directed and self-reliant...very Positive things to be sure.

Originally posted by SeenMyShare
reply to post by PayMeh

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I found it, but there is only one, and its mine!

Seriously, I've been shooting for roughly 42 years. I've lived a good portion of my life without modern conveniences. City folk would not fare well out in the "boonies" with little bit 'o nothing, but those of us who've lived old fashioned will have a better chance. I'm sure each and every one of us with a BOB also has a well stocked, prepared home but staying put isn't always an option. We like to be prepared enough - in advance - so that roughing it isn't as rough as it might be.

edit on 4/11/2010 by SeenMyShare because: (no reason given)

I've been shooting for 41 years. I lived as a young kid with no indoor plumbing - just a hand pumped well and an outhouse - the nearest McDonald was 45 miles away.

Not to discriminate against our urban brothers and sisters, but I have got to agree 100% unless they have had some serious survival training in the military, urbanos face an uphill struggle.

As for bug-in vs bug-out, I think it's like that song The Gambler "you got to know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away and know when to run."

Me and Viet Nam vet friend of mine named Bill are shooting buddies; we've got this pact that if the SHTF, the first think we're gonna do is link up and combine supplies and figure out whether to hold at his and his lovely wife's place, or at mine and my lady's place, or just hit the woods, or the highway.

We've talked a lot about this kind of thing. He has a much larger armory than I do, and much, much more experience. He laughs when he says "Weeel I can only shoot one rifle at a time" so he's had me practicing on his rifles.

His wife and my GF are both crack shots. Bill's fantastic, and I'm not exactly a slouch.

I think some sort of close team, like a family unit, is optimum no matter what is going down. Four people means standing watch is shorter, and under stress you sleep whenever you can - it conserves calories and keeps you sane.

Might be something else for us all to consider.

reply to post by kadyr80

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Stop it, you're saying too much! I was looking forward to the easy pickings. If enough people read your thread, I'll have to work harder for loot if shtf.

reply to post by PayMeh

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You should google how many atomic bombs have been detonated in Nevada, well over 1800.
Don't be worried about one bomb, most nukes carry more than one warhead.

reply to post by Asktheanimals

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wear the hat backwards, so you look even less threatening.

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