reply to post by Itisnowagain
I am well awake, no need for you to talk about god to me, if that's your truth than that's fine.
But saying the problems are not real? just an imagination is something else..
Surely sir, one can see the problems are a reality, and for clarity i will not go into it deeply but approach the fact.
People are killed and tortured, people are left in ignorance, people are starving and this because of some ideology like money-economy or a god.
Furthermore there is the separated outlook, me opposed to you, me and you, we and they which brings conflict and therefore violence.
Although it isn't 'the real' beyond thought and words, it is a real living movement in life, it is the world we humans have created, the rotten
society in wich we live.
And so some action has to take place, which is to observe it and learn from it, discipline means to learn, not like it is understood now meaning to
disciplin someone to conform to patterns of our society or an believe.
But virtue is needed and should be understood, and also our responsibility, to our children, to each other, the earth and all living beings.
All the fuss about enlightenment or higher being or god is destroying us inside and taking us away from this problem that we have created and sustain,
and it is just and means more separation, one who has ultimate knowledge opposed to the others who have not.
So another guru is born who is just an observer separated from the rest of mankind.
edit on 12-11-2010 by godddd because: (no reason given)