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reply posted on 2-11-2010 @ 11:02 PM by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by hangedman13
How about now some actual negotiating must be done To get legislation to pass now some actual cross party compromising must be done. Are you so sure that one party holding a all around majority


Republicans and Democrats negotiating?

Let me tell you something hangeman. After 2009 I learned something... for the first time I witnessed the cooperative workings of the Democrats and the Republicans. I saw the many Democrats vote and act exactly like Republicans. I looked back to 2001, 2003 and even as far back as the 80's and despite the little show the Democrats put on, many of them vote cooperative with the Republicans. There was never need for negotiation as the parties are essentially working in the interests of one another. They always have been. I assumed a filibuster proof majority would give the Democrats a chance to market themselves as different, but they proved themselves to be within the same agenda as the Republicans.

Neither one of them need to negotiate. They are already working with one another behind closed doors behind the backs of their voters. I have not doubt there are some pure Democrats and Republicans, but the bulk of the parties are cooperatively working with one another day in and day out. They need not negotiate.

Look at this as a check on the BS the Dems have done.


Ah yes, because the BS from the Republicans in the previous administration smells just that better.
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reply posted on 2-11-2010 @ 11:03 PM by neo96
reply to post by Southern Guardian





Ah yes, and yet it is a great day for American that the Republicans win the majority right? So long as the Democrats lose, it's a great day for America. To me you seem to be ignoring the fact of the matter here.


so let me ask were you happy with the continuation of massive spending that noone was stopping? were you happy with the healthcare that you already had but the federal government just saw fit to add 30 million people to buy insurance with a gun pointed to their head and wallets? did you not have any problems with that whatsoever?

and for the past 2 years the republicans were actually acting like republicans for the first time in 10 years, so i know they have it in them that goes beyond the self important bs of this entire country,..



Nope, I still see many of the same Bush politicians around, with the addition of newer "small government" conservatives who don't appear to me to be much of a difference bunch.


did you vote for those republicans? probably not and as a resident of my state responsible for voting for my state representatives i did the only thing i could do i voted them out and it is not my responsiblity for someone other idiotic states representatives.



What fight are you referring to might I ask?


i am fighting for the limitation of the federal government as it clearly states in the us constitution. to keep power checked and limited and to restrain its interference into my own life.

and if you have a problem with that don't really care your free to do whatever you wish.

but just to sit back and blame and rant and complain about this that and the other and not even try to even change anything but to denigrate everyone elses ideals but your own isn't helping the situation at all.
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reply posted on 2-11-2010 @ 11:08 PM by inforeal
reply to post by Dance4Life



Pelosi just wanted to have health care for all. That is so evil.

The lady isn’t perfect but the mentality here that hates her and doesn’t no why is pretty primitive.


reply posted on 2-11-2010 @ 11:12 PM by mal1500
reply to post by Southern Guardian



Amen, brother. Southpark did a great episode once making fun of modern politics, where PETA kept protesting the school's mascot, so they ended up holding an election for a new one and the choice was between a d-bag and an *expletive* samwich. There will be no change, there will just be partisan bickering while nothing gets done but the greasing of palms while the country sinks further and further into war and debt.

I, for one, am looking forward to seeing the Tea Party rise to power, sell out, and get thrown out for the next big thing.
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reply posted on 2-11-2010 @ 11:18 PM by hangedman13
reply to post by Southern Guardian



Good point on their mutual interests, but the ram rod approach that was taken helped no one. The priorities were agendas not the public well being. Health care reform required lots of sacrificial lambs as this mid term is showing. Politics as a career caused this mess. Now we have to negotiate a mind field of self-serving "public servants"


reply posted on 2-11-2010 @ 11:22 PM by mike dangerously
reply to post by neo96

This is the illusion of change we have a new speaker,but in the end it won't matter more smoke and mirrors to distract the people.The left/right game continues...



reply posted on 2-11-2010 @ 11:25 PM by roguetechie
reply to post by Southern Guardian



ERR what part of she is EVIL INCARNATE do you not get? ... And as far as things go YES ANYONE but her is a GOOD THING

even when picking between the lesser of two evils its always best to pick THE LESSER which is anyone but HER!!

It's pretty simple really, she has zero respect for our rights has been a MAJOR offender in giving big business more and better ways to screw us.

On top of that she's insufferable snide and obviously has the Nanny State self righteous attitude of most so called PROGRESSIVES who want to make YOUR decisions for you.

Now as I am an AMERICAN CITIZEN I have a PROBLEM with that as YOU SHOULD TOO.

If you don;t like that we;re celebrating the downfall of one of the BANNER CARRIERS for the nanny statist CONTROL FREAKS move to the UK where that Nanny crap is accepted.

I for one am sick and tired of apologists for this administration. Yes the Republicans SUCK but the democrats thus far have been worse by far...

Example: Bush did that amazing scene with the GIant MISSION ACCOMPLISHED Banner on the aircraft Carrier in 2004... THEN Obama BLOWS HIM OUT OF THE WATER and declares COMBAT OPERATIONS OVER AND OUR TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ... well except those 5 COMBAT BRIGADES of "transition personnel" with two more brigades slated to deploy in the next 6 months alone...

Yes the whole system is crap but some groups are worse than others and the republicans at least have to hide the anti freedom stuff better and move more slowly because of the ideology they claim to espouse

This is in direct comparison to the democratic mainstream which in recent years has put forth the assertion that the 2nd amendment and the constitution in general is OUTDATED and even if it does apply at all to YOU AND I
then do I even have to get into the most recent supreme court justice?

So if you have a problem with us celebrating the SLOWING of the slide into TOTALITARIANISM I'm sorry but honestly No I'm not it's pretty obvious what's going on these days people that don't see it really quite frankly blow my mind.


reply posted on 2-11-2010 @ 11:28 PM by BigTimeCheater
Originally posted by inforeal
reply to
post by Dance4Life



Pelosi just wanted to have health care for all. That is so evil.

The lady isn’t perfect but the mentality here that hates her and doesn’t no why is pretty primitive.


Nothing in the Constitution authorizes public funding of healthcare. The creature Pelosi was incredulous when asked about it and avoided answering the question.

Why do you think that is?


reply posted on 2-11-2010 @ 11:29 PM by Dance4Life
reply to post by roguetechie



I don't think you get it.

They are both wrong. Equally wrong, 100% wrong, both the same person. Mirror images.

OK, I ran out of analogies.

No offense.
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