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Pelosi is goneeee!!!!!!!

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posted on Nov, 8 2010 @ 12:46 AM
i cant believe this thread is still going after the recent news about pelosi vying for minority leader

it was wishful thinking on my part crying shame too the chief architect of the obama and left agenda will still be around and we will still be getting screwed.

a big thank you to all of you who have posted in this thread but its time it passes the way of the dodo bird.

we still have many more people to complain about good luck to you and us all we are going to need it.

posted on Nov, 8 2010 @ 01:29 AM
reply to post by BigTimeCheater

Now, when will you provide the relevant info to verify your story? I'll save you the time here. You cant verify it because you lied. You trotted out the standard stories people try to use as sob stories in order to defend an unconstitutional program. Refusing to admit you lied and are wrong is symptomatic of a sociopath. Keep lying to yourself if it helps you sleep at night, but no one actually buys your BS. You just believe they do to make yourself feel better.

Don't flatter yourself. I just don't waste my time on people who call me liar, number one.
You and your republican agenda are as evil as Monsonto, Blue Cross et al, and the lot of Pelosi bashers creeping around here.
Typical of poor working slobs, brute primates pushing an agenda, spoon fed them by similar minded patriarchs. A control/kill agenda, as long as there's bundles of money to be made off it.
Death Inc. What else can I expect your side to say?
I respond to reason, and persuasion. Won't cow tow to antagonistic bullies who try to get people to recoil through intimidation. I went to the tea party rallies, seen the men with the bull horns - I know how organized an effort this is. You sound like just another grunt, a party loyalist... with a bull horn.

You think the American people are not in favor of Health Care Reform? Think they don't know it is ruining the country, bankrupting families and worse (though certainly not in your estimation) killing people?

What did Obama run on? What was his platform again? Oh yeah - Health Care Reform.
What was his margin of victory?
Wake up and face facts.
We wanted a public option.

Vegas is an exception to the standard practice of no health care for restaurant workers, since they are doing such a bang up job pushing, booze gambling cigarettes, the rest of the reptil-republican agenda ie so much more death decay and degradation to Americans who may be regular customers in the sick and addicted wagon train...they get a discount. No doubt - it is free for all the strippers, dealers and bartenders out there.

There's big money in making everyone buy insurance from certain companies at inflated prices or die.
Privatized Prisons and incarceration that's another big money maker too...behind Arizona Immigration Law. Filling private prisons and making money per head from the government. Saying they are the party of fiscal responsibility meanwhile creating situations and even legislation (crack vs coc aine debate) designed to milk the taxpayer of government money to run prisons and pay for people in jail. Now they have investors.
With health care George Bushs prescription drug plan was a door open to big pharma and insurance companies and the "do drugs hard sell" bombarded with pharmaceutical ads on television came thanks to his father.

Getting between people and their doctors by making it so you cannot get treated without paying exorbitant fees to insurance companies and others... in the middle...very Anti American.
But that is the wrong headed right. There are enormous profits at stake.
They out shout. Interrupt. Scream until the commentator has to butt in and remind them to let the liberal opponent have a chance to speak. They count on people believing the last thing they hear. Like you are doing here, with a health care debate on a thread about Nancy Pelosi.

Look at what I have posted as Nancy Pelosi's earlier accomplishments. Surely you are not against veterans increases, the minimum wage, or s chip for kids?
People who know the facts of the matter do not need to be reminded or have anything proved to them.

And I sure as heck won't people search random customers to prove a point to you.
The other two women I mentioned are dead.
What would you have me do, dig them up for you?
You do not know me. But I know your kind.

Call me what ever names you want for defending the sick.

If you were suffering a mental illness it might provide an excuse for your attitude, but in your case it is deliberate deception with the intention to profit. Simple greed.
Not message you for anything, nor reply further to your slimy retorts, misrepresentations, baseless incrimination's and insults. In fact...if I could find the ignore button ....

edit on 8-11-2010 by rusethorcain because: (no reason given)

posted on Nov, 8 2010 @ 01:44 AM
reply to post by rusethorcain

Well you typed out alot of words, yet you didnt manage to actually say anything.

Have any thoughts of your own, or is being just another mindless drone spitting out the standard talking points your idea of being intellectual?

Of course you cant back up your little stories. They're false.

Lets see if you can actually provide factual evidence for anything you say.

One simple question:

Where does the federal government get the Constitutional authorization for the minimum wage, or s chip program?

If you think your opinion counts as fact, please do not be so ignorant. Provide factual data to back it up.

On a sidenote, I despise both the democrats and the republicans, so do not be so quick to generalize next time child. If you want to have adult discussions, it would be smart of you to actually act like one.

edit on 8-11-2010 by BigTimeCheater because: (no reason given)

posted on Nov, 8 2010 @ 02:24 AM

Advocacy group Families USA, found that without reform, 275,000 American adults will die prematurely over the next ten years because they lack insurance.The reasons are familiar -- lack of access to care outside the emergency room and skipping routine and preventative care due to cost -- but the numbers are stark. If nothing changes, there will be 34,600 projected deaths in California alone, 31,700 in Texas and 25,400 in Florida.

Of the 560,000 people with cancer who will die from their disease, The American Cancer Society estimates that 37,000 of those people will die with no health insurance

(Reuters) - Nearly 45,000 people die in the United States each year -- one every 12 minutes -- in large part because they lack health insurance and cannot get good care, Harvard Medical School researchers found in an analysis released on Thursday.Overall, researchers said American adults age 64 and younger who lack health insurance have a 40 percent higher risk of death than those who have coverage.

It's one thing to make a stand for an ideal during floor debates and in passing legislation against what Utah lawmakers regard as a socialistic takeover of U.S. medicine masked as reform, but it's quite another to face serious illness or death because a person can't get or has lost insurance coverage. Reforms would have worked beautifully" in two recent cases in which inexpensive preventative care would have helped two mid-level income patients with diabetes and no insurance — one of whom "crossed his fingers" and hoped he would OK — who both ended up in the emergency room in serious condition. "A $50 dose on insulin would have prevented the emergencies from occurring and would have prevented the thousands of dollars in care it took to turn them around," Poppen said.

After adjusting for factors such as obesity, exercise habits, alcohol use, and smoking status, researchers determined those without insurance were 40 percent more likely to die than those with a private insurance plan.

A freelance cameraman's appendix ruptured and by the time he was admitted to surgery, it was too late. A self-employed mother of two is found dead in bed from undiagnosed heart disease. A 26-year-old aspiring fashion designer collapsed in her bathroom after feeling unusually fatigued for days.
What all three of these people have in common is that they experienced symptoms, but didn't seek care because they were uninsured and they worried about the hospital expense, according to their families.
All three died.

Uninsured children who wind up in the hospital are much more likely to die than children covered by either private or government insurance plans, according to one of the first studies to assess the impact of insurance coverage on hospitalized children.

posted on Nov, 8 2010 @ 02:32 AM
reply to post by rusethorcain

Still avoiding the question I see. Your problem is that you think with emotion, and not intelligence.

Where is the Constitutional authorization for health insurance, minimum wage, or the S-Chip program?

posted on Nov, 8 2010 @ 09:35 AM
reply to post by BigTimeCheater

Unfortunately my friend, you wont be able to obtain a response from this individual. After reading both comments, I've seen that the only source of information this person can utilize is the propaganda from the local news web. The earlier response, be that it may was 5 paragraphs of jarbble, clearly proves that point.
Isn't it amazing how some can't even answer the simplest of questions? Though this person continues to argue with no clear knowledge of the Constitution nor the ability to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that their argument holds water, they continue to copy and paste comments that are clearly written by some one else? The inability to conjure up a thought of their own is just pathetic!

posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 12:05 AM
reply to post by neo96

I told you exactly what was going to happen on page 5. You specifically, after you replied to my post of page 4.

I have no idea how this thread got this long. As if she didn't win 70-80% of her district.

posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 09:08 PM
We are headed for political gridlock, stalemate where neither agenda gets much traction. Republicans will find that the liberals will try to block a repeal of Obama Care in both the Congress and finally by Obama's Veto.

I expect we will have a game of chicken between the two sides in which the entire budget will have added conditions the Liberals will not accept. The question being will the entire government actually shut down before one side or the other backs down. Which side will the average voter blame for lack of an agenda that gets the country back on track, and then punish in the future elections.

Will Obama accept the inevitable, that he can not win next time, and that withdraw from the race in time for the Democratic party to put forward a candidate who might be elected?

I think whether one agreed with the policies that Pelosi advocated or not, her continued presence is not helpful to the Democrats. I think the Republicans will be quite happy for her to continue on, so they have someone to blame for what will surely be the continuing poor economy. If the economy does get better, the Conservatives can still take credit for that.

posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 06:11 AM
So, as I predicted, yes...I am being pompous about this...Nancy Pelosi will be minority leader.

Everything would be better if you elected me leader for life.

posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 06:19 AM
Killing a hydra is never easy!
or medusa

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