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The Biggest Fraud In History ~ And We Have All Fallen For It! (Ultimate Conspiracy)

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posted on Nov, 3 2010 @ 07:43 PM
Carlitomoore you da man!

All this work, links, articles, embedding, and thinking is very much appreciated.

I'm not finished with all the material yet, as it takes a while to get through it all. But so far, this is one of the best threads I've seen in a while.

We have a tendency at times to put things behind us and become complacent with the status quo. This just reminds me that we still have "at large" some politicians who betrayed our country, and should be incarcerated.
I hope some day, there will be justice for these men who betrayed their positions, and the good faith of our citizenry; who's complicity with criminality and greed began our journey to ruin.

posted on Nov, 3 2010 @ 07:46 PM

Originally posted by dizziedame
It is good that you have figured this out but I must tell you it is not a recent awakening for many of us.

I put this under old business as it goes back even further than the Bush administration.

There is no money to be made if we destroy our countries with nuclear weapons.
We may collectively wage war against smaller countries as they are like a flea on a dogs back and we must reel them into compliance.

Now it's time to find out where you fit in this reality.

My best wishes to you.

Who are the "many of us" who want to "reel them into compliance"?

I, too have studied and followed up on this for a couple of years, and I would never think of using either "you' or "we" as a pronoun for what the country ought to do....that was decided a long time ago by the "so-called élite" who own and run the governments.

Are you one of them, or was that just a poor choice of words --meaning "the élite must reel them into compliance"?


posted on Nov, 3 2010 @ 10:03 PM
Immensely brilliant caliber of work there.

But looks like you may have uncovered too much. Hope you've been using a proxy...

posted on Nov, 3 2010 @ 11:17 PM

Originally posted by HunkaHunka

Originally posted by HYADEAN2025

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by HYADEAN2025

There's no need to get mad.....

Just live your own life.....

We, the people of the world denounce your claim of ownership of the world for it is through fraud, deception and usury that you have made yourself the rulers of humankind. You have committed every evil in your goal for world hegemony and have become drunk with the blood of the innocents.

There is no good or evil, only thinking makes it so.

I make no claim to any ownership, for surely no one can truly own any thing. Your own true treasures will always be subjective.

No longer shall we sit idly by allowing your agenda to stay hidden behind the veil. We shall unite with a common purpose and with a common goal to spread the knowledge of your tyranny across the globe and to demand justice until the world is free from the slavery and perdition you have created on this earth.

My only agenda is self reliance....

Be your own God and stop worrying.... Life has existed on this planet for eons, and it will continue to as well...

Nothing will ever bring you peace but yourself.

posted on Nov, 4 2010 @ 02:19 AM
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Wow! Amazing post! Lots of great info and definatly eye opening! Nicely put together too. A+ work...

posted on Nov, 4 2010 @ 08:38 AM
i think it's awesome that you've put all of this together, though it will take some time for me to look at everything here, i get the feeling that this thread is one of the more worthwhile ventures anyone can hope to come across.
it seems using your brain has become somewhat of a taboo, and is reserved for a certain "crowd" or a certain "kind of person"

i would like to recommend to you the Tao te ching
i didn't notice it anywhere, but it's quite a long thread and i have yet to digest it all

also, the art of war is a good read, just try not to take it for what it may be made out to be

the last thing i'd like to recommend is a documentary called "stupidity", i'm sure you'd get a kick out of it

peace dude

posted on Nov, 4 2010 @ 11:53 AM
reply to post by carlitomoore

And think about this...
Any contingency that withholds the healing, calming, properties of marijuana while simultaneously allowing and promoting the deadly duo, tobacco and alcohol, MUST have at it's core, a clear and unmistakable CONTROL/KILL agenda.

Don't be surprised but, evil (and I guess it may appear human on the outside) exists.

Think about it...this contingency historically came to the door, dragged out and slew firstborn infant sons to protect some secret they did not want to come to pass with the Christ....

Now we DELIVER our firstborn sons willingly and regularly.

I sincerely believe "they" this group of "others" (Evil Inc.) survive and thrive even greater in modern times.
They have expanded and incorporated...flourished of late...under the radar. Hell they are the radar.
As owners of giant corps., warmongers, the military and energy giants, they still claim our firstborn sons without all the hassle. We "deliver them unto evil."

Evil Inc has come a long way baby.

Don't believe me?
I have a slew of articles from Forbes, medical and science magazines touting a variety of cancers marijuana helps PREVENT..even encourages brain cell growth...once thought impossible.
Marijuana is far safer than sugar!

Now look at all the death statistics as a result of tobacco and alcohol.
The robberies rapes, that might not have happened
Innocent victims that might be alive
The domestic violence statistics
The deaths by drunk drivers.
The loss of a parent, child or loved one to the disease of alcoholism, to a drunk driver or to lung cancer.
All unmistakably - absolutely no question - alcohol fueled - even the perpetrator in some cases could be saved since they typically would not have had the nerve to commit the crime in the first place...
But if you do this....
The PRIVATIZED PRISONS would not get their supply of bodies... so. encouraging alcohol use is a win, win for many in the EVIL INC. loop.

How about the POISON SUGAR? Perfectly acceptable... (in all forms)
even has it's own promos on TV -corn syrup ads.

Meanwhile our children are getting too fat to fight.
Turned away from the military.
Sugar is causing emotional instability and mental problems.
It is the trigger for diabetes which we pour billions of dollars into every year. Hello?
These are profit generating schemes, a f'ing pyramid! mini wars! Not only unnecessary but immoral and eternally damning. One stop shopping for Evil Inc.

Sugar is clearly helping to (inadvertently or not) kill the remainder of the populace who aren't smokers or drinkers.

Now tell me they are not just trying to kill as many people as they can.

And pot is illegal... like all of a sudden these regulators grew a conscious???
They're afraid pot will replace cigarettes and liquor. Revenue will be lost.
The biggest corps in America rely heavily on sugar and sugar use for their products to be palatable.
Sugar is cheap...and gasoline...these commodities.... and them that invest in and own them.... rule the world and control many parts of society.... unnoticed. They blend.
And there is a FACTION of this group, worse then the rest...
who are trying deliberately, for amusement as well as profit... to kill us off.

You may not see it through the woolly drapes and deceptions passed around by FOX
which means sensor correct- but not exactly - Fuk O and X, I am sure!
How can you blame media- when media covers it?
Nothing is hidden, kept from us... It is all simply misinterpreted or in the case of FOX, made up.
I heard Ann Coulter say she "gave up murdering hobos" as a New Years joke on FOX. I heard Gregg Gutfeld recently...say "Do Drugs Just do the BEST drugs" and they all agreed and laughed..
You think the kids don't watch? And later on another homosexual double entendre...lusting over a boy...on TV saying what he would like to do to him? Sort of vile...
This IS the Repubtilian Agenda. It is vile, and masquerading as fiscally conservative and sensible.
That is on the outside.
They are the party/station who ceaselessly promote, maybe start(?), and certainly profit off wars.
There's is a CONTROL/KILL Agenda. Some fox/gop loving people are not pure evil but only following blindly along because of a melodious rhetoric, they hear lower taxes, and it is like a whistle to the mice.

PS if you don't think alcohol and tobacco are "promoted"...just wait.
Superbowl is coming up...

and we'll all be herded into the pen....

so they can perfect the facial recognition programs....

"and deliver us from EVIL..."
is a spell to ward off the devil because evil is a real entity we need to keep from being intoxicated and sent or literally DELIVERED unto....

Frightens the hell out of me...Just that is enough. Delivery. Evil will take it from there. Like SAW.

EVIL Inc. survives on fear, terror, blood, pain, death, anguish and the gnashing of teeth - as I understand.

Perhaps we should introduce EVIL to Jenny Craig or Nutrisystem?

edit on 4-11-2010 by rusethorcain because: (no reason given)

posted on Nov, 4 2010 @ 03:44 PM
I will have to post another generic reply for now. Just my look, I have been hoping for one of my threads get attention like this for over two years, and when the moment finally arrives I can't seem to escape work for long enough to eat never mind do what I like to best; reading and posting!

To all the members who have commented on the format, I am realy glad that you find it well presented. That is one of my biggest goals at the minute. I like reading a lot, and it may be the best book in the world, but if it is poorly structured then it makes it a chore to read. What I would like to see a lot more of on ATS is well structured, well linked threads. It can be then viewed more like an ebook, and people are more likely to get to a point and stop, then come back and finish it. Thanks for the feedback.

Again, about when the 'fraud' began. I do believe this has been going on in some form of another for a very long time now (see 'All Roads Lead To Rome'), but my focus and the best information available to me is more in the timeframe of the last two decades. As I said, it has happened before, and it will continue to happen. Bush is just the template for big business buying and manipulating their way into power.

Now the thread deals with a wide range of subjects.

A) Our governments are not chosen by you per se. You are manipulated into voting for who theyh want into power simply by the media attention, spin, and vast amounts of money they throw into the election. See it as a sort of stage show, and you are in the audition, and they are very cleerly putting on a blockbuster show to make you THINK you are voting for who YOU want to lead you. Freud and Jung wouled be very proud.

B) So they are in power, but still there are genuine, influential people out ther in the world who have morals, like to uphold the law and are decent human beings, and if they suspect something is happening, then they will investigat it. Now the globalists may be the richest in the world, but if any of them are implicated, it is game over, so they burn and erase all the evidence. These guys were not so smart:

Former oil tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovsky who was jailed for embezzlement and tax evasion in 2003, is back in court. New charges brought against him, could see his term extended until 2017. He's been giving his concluding speech at a court hearing. Sarah Firth is following the case.

Mikhail Khodorkovsky

Mikhail Borisovich Khodorkovsky (Russian: Михаи́л Бори́сович Ходорко́вский, IPA: [mʲɪxɐˈil xədɐˈrkofskʲɪj]; born 26 June 1963 in Moscow) is a Russian enterpreneur, businessman and philanthropist. In 2004, Khodorkovsky was the wealthiest man in Russia, and was the 16th wealthiest man in the world, although much of his wealth evaporated because of the collapse in the value of his holding in the Russian petroleum company Yukos. On 25 October 2003, Khodorkovsky was arrested at Novosibirsk airport by the Russian prosecutor general's office on charges of fraud. Shortly thereafter, on 31 October, the government under Vladimir Putin froze shares of Yukos because of tax charges. The Russian Government took further actions against Yukos, leading to a collapse in the share price. It purported to sell a major asset of Yukos in December 2004.

They may be 'above' the law, but if they break the rules and get caught, they will be made example of.

C) So they need a new fraud, becuase they have 'Pretended to Fail' and the last one is over, until the time maybe to start it back up again: Because you can't kill a good fraud!

So they then start making their money through Foreing Nation Building, and this is the stage we are at now; If they get caught, they will be hold accountable. Yes, someone else will reign on the throne, but nether the less we can't just let it happen in the first place.

Now this is where I realy have to stress the importance of reading and understanding the Afghanistan thread, as that is what this theory is based around. There are only so many coincidences, before the whole thing can be seen as a well structured plan. I cannot re-post all the information, if people like the format of this thread then please follow it though one peice at a time, and don't just accept what I am saying as Gospel. Once you 'See' it for yourself, you will notice a huge difference in the way you see thw world. You have pulled back the 'veil' so to speak.

One thing I would say is keep these points nestled in your subconcious, becuse everytime you see a news article, a headline, a bulletin show, you will see very clearly that all the pieces of the puzzle are there, they are all just mixed up. Start with the outside, and everthing else has to fit....

Key Points:

Remember 'Pretend To Fail'
Follow The Money
Their are NO enemies, only potential partners.


posted on Nov, 4 2010 @ 03:56 PM
Key points from the Afghanistan thread to look out for and understand. Bearing in mind that this thread was started a long time ago and i have been updating it so it reads as a sort of timeline:

• Is it really feasible that we would go to so much expense (Human more than monetary), to protect ourselves from a threat that seems almost non-existent?

The most troubled areas seem to be Pakistan and India, and most of the ‘terrorism’ in Britain seems to originate from these areas.

• Is it really feasible that there is a very dangerous man and a group of loyal militants who are plotting to destroy the entire western civilisation?

The majority of us believe that Osama Bin Laden is dead, and that the Taliban was in fact first founded to stave off the Russian invasion is Afghanistan to begin with, which brings me onto my next couple of points.

• If the might of the Russian army couldn’t break the back of Afghanistan in a decade, what do we feel we can do different?

I fail to see how under stringent budget cuts, harsher conditions, and a better supplied enemy, we feel we can do better than what the Russians did.

• Where are the ‘enemy’ getting their arms from?

There is definitely a supply keeping the enemy going, It can only be presumed that this is happening at a very high level.

• Why has the Poppy yield not decreased?

I have not yet seen any evidence indicating that the yield has decreased, if anything I believe it could be found that the opposite is true, at least for the first few years since the invasion.

The Great Game
The New Great Game
The Silk Road
The Modern Silk Road Startegy


One of the most promising ways forward for the U.S. and NATO in Afghanistan is to focus on removing the impediments to continental transport and trade across Afghanistan‘s territory. Many existing international initiatives from the Mediterranean to the Indian sub-continent and Southeast Asia are already bringing parts of this network into being. Absent is the overall prioritization, coordination, and risk management that will enable Afghanistan to emerge as a natural hub and transit point for roads, railroads, pipelines, and electric lines. America and its coalition partners can provide these missing ingredients.

Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai



Kabul Bank
Asia Development Bank

Mining in Afghanistan; China Mettalurgy CORP, Copper Mining

China Rail; Afghan Rail Project

That is a whistestop tour; more than I wanted to re-post but for details and to understand you will have to follow the thread:

Afganistan: A Modern Silk Road Strategy

One more piece of information coming up that ties it all together

posted on Nov, 4 2010 @ 03:59 PM

Zbigniew Brzezinski: How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen


Interview of Zbigniew Brzezinski Le Nouvel Observateur (France), Jan 15-21, 1998, p. 76*

* There are at least two editions of this magazine; with the perhaps sole exception of the Library of Congress, the version sent to the United States is shorter than the French version, and the Brzezinski interview was not included in the shorter version.

The below has been translated from the French by Bill Blum author of the indispensible, "Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II" and "Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower" Portions of the books can be read at: Link

Q: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

Brzezinski: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic [integrisme], having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

Brzezinski: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.

History Repeats?

posted on Nov, 4 2010 @ 04:19 PM
GREAT THREAD!!!!! This should be emailed to all friends and family.... NOW

posted on Nov, 4 2010 @ 06:18 PM
Fantastic post man, I've wanted to do one similar. Sometimes people neglect to see that everything operates as a whole and when you look it's like all the pieces fall right into place


posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 10:59 AM
Brilliant post. These things cannot be permitted to stand. So metaphysically as we move into the new level of human consciousness, we must call to mind all the hard lessons learned. And not repeat the errors of the past, but create a new World of peace, love and total equality. Let each of us work for the betterment of mankind and the dilligent stewardship of our beloved Planet. Cheers.

posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 11:15 AM
Tonight: truTV; Conspiracy Theory; Wall Street



posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 11:31 AM
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This is defiantely out of character! Never heard of the network but hope a lot of others have.

They would LOVE a report from you on Russia Today, that is the most balanced news network I have ever seen. Its probably still owned by Rupert Murdoch though....

posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 11:37 AM
Wall Street Conspiracy Tonight at 10.PM ET/PT Time on TruTV:

Enterprise Corruption in the News!

Anyone any ideas where I will be able to watch this being in the UK?

posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 06:09 PM
The biggest fraud in history are the Central Banks. Now that's a fraud, and a well-known one at that.

posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 06:17 PM
just "banks" would do


posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 06:20 PM


posted on Nov, 5 2010 @ 07:43 PM

Originally posted by Nutella
The biggest fraud in history are the Central Banks. Now that's a fraud, and a well-known one at that.

here's a "Rothschild" link about the "bank"

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