Am I the only one who sees Democracy as a weak political system?

Democracy has came along sense it's prehistoric and historical roots. The rules have changed and the voices and actions of the people made it so everyone would have a fair share. Democracy today I see as a system that can be easily used by TPTB or other crooked forms of government. The crooked work together in the back ground and we get no where. As well our elections are very silly that I feel ashamed to vote for any candidate running for any government office. My friend earlier today mentioned if we didn't vote then that right would be taken away from us. I then told him about the elections in North Korea which North Koreans vote but only the candidates their government choses. So this is why I see Democracy as a weak system. Do any of you agree with me or not? I would like to see what you have to say about Democracy today and where you live.

reply to post by Romantic_Rebel


Democracy on a local level is good.

But I'd be all for a benevolent dictatorship on a national/international level

Democracy driven by outdated ideology is definitely a weak political system.

The only cure for a corrupted democracy is youth.

Democracy is a excellent system the problem with it are the people in charge. The reason they are a problem is they are nothing but slaves to greed. All Republican and Democrats care nothing about the common good for the country all they care about is how much money they can make for themselves and their friends.

Originally posted by ghostsoldier
reply to post by Romantic_Rebel

 

Democracy on a local level is good.

But I'd be all for a benevolent dictatorship on a national/international level

Has there ever been a a benevolent dictator?
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I didn't think so. But I'd be happy to try. Write me in, next election. I will care for you all! For life!

reply to post by ghostsoldier


"benevolent dictatorship" is an oxymoron. I agree that democracy is seriously flawed though on any level but the smallest.

All systems work. Pure democracy works. Pure socialism works. Pure communism works. Even pure anarchy works. The problem isn't with the systems, it's with human nature. These systems all fail because of either apathy, laziness and/or greed.

That is why the US of A is a Republic. Just look it up. A Republic puts rules on the government not on the people. If you look back to your grade school days, you will notice that they pushed that the US of A is a democracy. This is completely wrong! The Republic that this country has turned into a democracy because we, as citizens, have allowed it to happen. As citizens, we have voted our rights away through numerous laws that are completely unconstitutional based on the The Constitution. For instance, the 16th Amendment allows the "government steal money from you each pay day. This gave a huge amount of power to a central government that was to be prevented by the Republic. Remember, the Revolutionary War was partially started by a fraction of one cent tax on stamps! The 17th Amendment allows for Senators to be elected by a majority vote. This is completely wrong! That is first steps into a Democracy! Originally, the State Senators were selected by the elected officials of each state. That way, when they did come back from Washington to the state, the state Senators could be fired for not working for the best interests of the state. That is not possible now! Read your history and you will see that a Democracy is a bad form of government, but a Republic is one of the best!. The people of the US of A need to their country back to the Republic foundations that it started on.

Democracy is simply mob rules. Or the right to choose your own tyrant. What we have though is oligarchy.

A free republic is the government of choice IMO. No one has the right to vote on what health care I have to use or what plants I can grow, or if I have to wear a set belt, own a gun, or support the poor, etc. it is none of thier business. As long as I am not harming anyone else what I do is nobody else's business. The only lawful purpose of any government is to protect rights, free trade, and mutual defense period!

I am not against social programs that help people as long as they are all voluntarily funded. When government steals from one to give to another in the name of doing good the society is eventually doomed that is where we are at now.

Government has no right to do collectively what no individual has the right to do individually; like take the fruits of the labors of people without thier consent.

Democracy on a national level turns into a popularity context and breeds mediocrity.

Democracy is the best system so far, but its flaw is that incompetent and manipulated majority often cannot make the best and most optimal decisions.

“The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.”
Winston Churchill

I think some form of Geniocracy or Meritocracy would be better for the society. Of course direct geniocracy/meritocracy, using teh internetz.

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Have you ever seen this list? I would like to have Demarchy or Technocracy. I know some people on ATS would like to have a Minarchism type of government.
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Democracy is the only political doctrine that allows you, the common man, the freedom to speak or express yourself freely without fear or favour, but decisions made will only be accepted and made by the majority. Thus the tyranny of loud but vocal minorities with special self interest or interest groups will be diminished and rationally urge to change for the sake of progress and evolution of a society with common grounds of aspirations and hopes.

Without this freedom, no other freedoms or liberties can be derived from, for men are only flawed mortal beings. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Tyranny will then reign, as it had reign for centuries before the sacred US Constitution became a fact, and sadly, had been corrupted by the corporatists amongst us to deny mankind of such freedoms again.....

Its there to keep people asleep.

If we had an out and out dictator, at least people could all focus on what is bad, but democracy keeps us all divided and asleep.

The trouble is all the democracies are still based on what was feasible in the 18th century. All legislation should be required to get the support of 75% of respondents in a direct national referendum. PASS/FAIL. No senators/no congressmen, no lobbyists, no earmarks no pork.

Government - People. No middlemen required. :-)

Democracy isent the problem its the current aplication of it in the UK and USA as a party distorted representitive goverment. here people are basicly picking who they pay to make the decisions for them who are then left to their own selfish devices. I am a great advocote of direct democracy but also perhaps demarchy both of which put more power back into public hands.