That's an interesting definition of the word "facts" you have there, James. I seem to remember your statistics on British and Australian gun deaths being... well, shall we say they were slightly enthusiastic?

I wonder if you'd be filled with such a sense of righteousness if you hadn't been the butt of jakko's attacks. He went too far - particularly in the use of the word "retarded" - but everyone who contributed to that thread was guilty, in part, of engendering excessive flaming and personal insults.

Let's not pretend jakko was bad and everyone else was whiter than white, okay?

Hey, I used the data I had. About 16 sites all together, 13 in one post stating facts. I know my gun deaths may have been a little overboard, and do apologize, but the sites I put up had credible sources like Wall Street Journal, Global Magazine, and all said the same thing. Guns banned, crime skyrockets.

What a pity, haha get it? Yeah ok, back to my "hole"

I know I am a little late to the discussion, but I would just like to say that I am now (6 years) older and (somewhat) wiser than in 2004, and my current plan is to never call someone retarded ever again (not even James )

Nice to see people defend me, I have been gone from ATS so long and never even saw this thread, I remember almost everyone in it though.
I guess I am back?

*waves*