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US Draft Status in Black & White.....

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posted on Jun, 28 2004 @ 10:22 AM
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House Bill (H.R.163-Title: To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes. )
Status:1/7/2003:
Referred to the House Committee on Armed Services.

2/3/2003:
Executive Comment Requested from DOD.
2/3/2003:
Referred to the Subcommittee on Total Force.

Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15]
Co-Sponsors: Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 1/7/2003
Rep Brown, Corrine [FL-3] - 1/28/2003
Rep Christensen, Donna M. [VI] - 5/19/2004
Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1] - 1/28/2003
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] - 1/7/2003
Rep Cummings, Elijah E. [MD-7] - 1/28/2003
Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23] - 1/28/2003
Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 1/28/2003
Rep Lewis, John [GA-5] - 1/7/2003
Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 1/7/2003
Rep Moran, James P. [VA-8] - 1/28/2003
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 1/7/2003
Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. [NY-12] - 1/28/2003


Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes [DC] - 1/28/2003(withdrawn - 6/21/2004)

Senate Bill (S.89-Title: A bill to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes. )
Status:1/7/2003:
Read twice and referred to the Committee on Armed Services.

Sponsor: Sen Hollings, Ernest F. [SC]
No Co Sponsors

Source: thomas.loc.gov...

Now this is as black & white as you can get, Yes there is legislation in both houses of congress to reinstate the draft, with Big differences from the prioir draft during the Vietnam war, ages 18-26, men & women, conscientous objectors included check out this snippet:



SEC. 8. CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION.
(a) CLAIMS AS CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR- Any person selected under this Act for induction into the uniformed services who claims, because of religious training and belief (as defined in section 6(j) of the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. 456(j))), exemption from combatant training included as part of that military service and whose claim is sustained under such procedures as the President may prescribe, shall, when inducted, participate in military service that does not include any combatant training component.

(b) TRANSFER TO CIVILIAN SERVICE- Any such person whose claim is sustained may, at the discretion of the President, be transferred to a national service program for performance of such person's national service obligation under this Act.


House Bill: thomas.loc.gov...:H.R.163:
Senate Bill:thomas.loc.gov...:S.89:



posted on Jun, 28 2004 @ 10:28 AM
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Very very nice. I mean how can you read that wrong? It is in black and white.



posted on Jun, 28 2004 @ 10:36 AM
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Since you put it in black and white it should be very apparent that mostly far left democratic sponsorship is behind introduction of this legislation in a blatant attempt at outright scare tactics to swing the youth vote to the democratic party. When this is mentioned in the media not much is made of the sponsors nor their motivation behind these bills, kinda tells one where most of the media stands, definitely not impartial.



posted on Jun, 28 2004 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix
Since you put it in black and white it should be very apparent that mostly far left democratic sponsorship is behind introduction of this legislation in a blatant attempt at outright scare tactics to swing the youth vote to the democratic party.


Good point, you would hope that the youth who have the opportunity to vote this November will seek information about the candidates instead of just taking the media as an unbiased deliverer of the truth.

The "truth" is a very, very elusive little "bugger", especially when it comes to the nations politics, no matter what side of the aisle you are on.



posted on Jun, 28 2004 @ 01:23 PM
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The far right doesn't need a draft, they create one through their policies on education and the economy, forcing kids to join the military to pay for college or any hope of a better life from the bleak economic outlook of this nation. I don't think the neo-cons are inept with their domestic agenda, like most would agree, but I think they know exactly what they are doing. Creating conditions to ensure a steady flow of enlistees.



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 09:41 AM
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Just FYI, This Bill was introduced to even the field. So that the rich kids had just as even as a chance to go to war as the poor kids. And since the rich kids parents run the countries and make the descsions. People may think twice getting into a war if they know thier kids cant get out of it.

At least that is what was said when the bill was introduced



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 09:59 AM
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I like the idea about all-even the rich kids being considered for draft-but it won't happen. If you read the begining:

House Bill (H.R.163-Title: To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes. )

or a period of civial service

Want to bet who goes to war in foreign lands and who gets "civial service" jobs!

Nothing will change for the rich-they will stay close to home and have 9-5 jobs and the middle class and poor will go off to fight.



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 10:07 AM
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The House bill has been voted down 2-402 with the only two yeas coming from democrats

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by BlackJackal
with the only two yeas coming from democrats



Now that is something. Do you know who?



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 12:14 PM
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Democrats John P. Murtha (D-PA) and Pete Stark (D-CA).



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 12:36 PM
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The latest twist-


U.S. Has Contingency Plans for a Draft of Medical Workers

www.wilmingtonstar.com.../20041019/ZNYT04/410190396/1010/STATE




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