posted on May, 12 2005 @ 03:10 AM
Hard to believe that this discussion has gone on for seven pages and Taylor KO values have not been brought up to
resolve it. And Amuk even overlooked this. Well, I dont plan to make the solution easy for you, its more fun to figure
this one out on your own. I will just say that I enjoy shooting both the 45 and the 9mm. While I like the looks of
the Beretta, I find the Glock or the Ruger P85 are more natural pointers in 9 double mike. In the 1911 style, my
preference is for the Colt Combat Elite 45.
Other points to consider :
Bullet velocity in a pistol is probably more dependant on barrell length than any other factor. All automatics are
somewhat lacking in that department. Pistol powders are either fast burning or faster burning. You dont have
the burn rate choices that rifle cases do. And factory ammo, also most military ammo is "downloaded" so that
the worst clunker on the market wont blow up and result in legal difficulties. SMG loads for both the 9 and the
45 should be avoided in automatic pistols. To get that velocity out of that small case (either) requires a compressed
powder load, which is similar to factory blue dot proof test loads. These loads are for SMG's which tend to have
11 inch barrells (allows the charge to burn in the barrell, behind the bullet instead of outside the barrell making
a brighter flash and backed up by really beefy bolts) Prove it for yourself. Take your favorite pistol and beg or
borrow a cronograph and clock your typical loads. I guarantee you will be dissappointed.
Finally, there is the head-space issue. Depending on design, many automatics out there soon start to head-space
the recoil of the round on the extractor instead of the slide base. Some of the 9 mm's have not so beefy extractors,
which aint good. Over the life of the gun, the hammer forging of the slide base is the cause. If you are a heavy
shooter, and like beefy rounds, and reload (about the only way to get beefy rounds), then the wheel gun wins
because there is no extractor issue. You will wear out the forcing cone instead. If you want rounds to
actually cronograph up to the velocities implied earlier in this discussion, do so safely. Ruger's, the Thompson Center,
and Freedom Arms are the pistol makers I would recommend for beefy rounds. There are others but I have long term
experiance hot-loading for these with safety.
Practice a lot. Know the firearm well and never loose your respect for it. It is ALWAYS loaded even when its not.
I think many have addressed the accuracy arguement. If you cant hit with the gun, then here is your advise.
A good workman never blaims his tools; he learns to use what he has well or he isnt that good.