Originally posted by Lord Jules
How many times are you going to repeat this blatant lie? The clean up workers committed a crime called tampering with evidence of a crime scene, so
the clean up workers were not like the fire fighters, average americans who went out to do their country a service. The fire fighters reported hearing
explosions, meanwhile the clean up workers were hired by the government in order to cover up the tracks, so obviously they wouldn't talk about damage
to steel, which there was by the way, the molten metal. And how ridiculous it is to say the clean up workers were the same people who built the
buildings? Where do you get this nonsense from? Why would they hire the same people who built the buildings to clean it up? Because they are the only
ones qualified enough to clean up the debris, since they built it? Your logic is hilarious.
Now, I would have thought you conspiracy people would be leery about trying to call me on something by now becuase I have the facts on my side so I
can always always always back up everything I say. I have a copy of the book, "Aftermath", by photographer Joel Meyerowitz on my lap as I type
this. It is a collection of photographs and stories he picked up as he covered the cleanup of ground zero:
"There were also flagmen and mechanics, demolition experts and water truck operators, security overseers, and many more. But I always come back
to the ironworkers, whose seven thousand degree torches sent cascades of sparks spilling everywhere over the site as they cut it down, piece by piece.
Many of them were Native Americans, Mohawks from upper New York State whose agility while working on the high steel is legendary. Or, guys like
Willie Quinlan, who told me he'd come here as a young journeyman to build the North Tower. Now he was back, to take it all apart."
"Aftermath, pg 41
This one passage written by someone who was physically at ground zero proves the claim that steel workers were on site and were cutting the steel with
torches right there, and that there were steel workers on site who assisted in building the towers to begin with, but that's neither here nor there.
Whenever the truthers present something interesting here I'll do research on my own to learn more about it becuase I'm genuinely interested in
learning the truth behind the events of 9/11...but whenever I post something here not only do the truthers refuse to lift a finger to do any actual
research on their own outside what Prison Planet and Loose Change is feeding them, I practically have to give them my research on a silver platter
with a glass of Iced tea and a sun umbrella...and even then, they'll only believe it if it comes from Dylan Avery. It'd be be one thing if they
said, "hey Dave I'd like to learn more about this", but they don't. They simply say it's a pack of lies without even investigating to see if it
actually is a lie, which is being horribly uninformed and ignorant. Sheesh, little children behave this way.
As for the iron workers were "hired by the gov't to cover up their tracks", I'm sorry, but this everyone-is-a-secret-agent slander is getting so
stale it's become thoroughly unbelievable. According to you, *everyone* who says something that discredits these conspiracy stories of yours is a
secret agent, from FEMA, to the FAA, to NIST, to MIT, to Perdue, to NATO, to NYPA, to NYPD, to NYFD, to the Red Cross, to even a guy driving a cab out
by the Pentagon, and *now* the workers brought in to clear the wreckage. Good grief, how many people are in on this supposedly secret conspiracy,
Time to put up or shut up, my friend- You didn't believe there were people clearing the steel from ground zero who helped build the towers and I
gave you evidence showing you that it was true. I now ask *you* to post even a microbe of proof backing up the claim Willie Quinlan or Joel
Meyerowitz are secret gov't agents "hired by the gov't to cover up their tracks". I'm not holding my breath, though, becuase up until now every
time you conspiracy people get spanked like this you always always always disappear back onto the woodwork only to reappear later to foist the same
debunked drivel all over again. Maybe you can prove me wrong on that statement, at least.
By the way, the real builders of the towers said they were built to withstand airplane impacts.
This is a disingenuous statement since the towers *did* withstand the impacts of the airplanes. It was the fires in addition to damage from the plane
impacts in addition to the unique design of the towers that (according to every serious study on the collapse) brought the towers down. Not that it
matters, since in a Prison Planet interview with Alex Jones, those very same designers are on record as accepting the findings of the FEMA report,
which makes your speculation entirely moot. Go ahead, say I'm lying or that they're secret agents hired by the gov't to cover their tracks. I
double dog dare you.
Sheesh, some people. You have no credibility, Jules.