reply to post by Mactire
Well, sorry but from investigating the Apollo missions, and their timelines, extensively, I have to shrug my shoulders at most of those claims...I
don't know whether they are the result of urban legends, creative imagination, or what else.
And, wished to mention, back to the claim that amateur Ham radio operators heard that "Mission Control" exchange ("These babies are huge, sir!!") is
still laughable....however, as it is allegedly related by those Ham Radio enthusiasts, maybe they are paraphrasing, because none of the dialogue they
say they heard is how CapCom (Mission Control's "handle" was, simply, "Houston") and the Astronauts would speak. Apollo 11's callsigns were
"Columbia", until the LM disconnected, then there were TWO spacecraft...and when they wished to address the LM, its callsign was "Eagle".
Anyway, before we leave this topic (because, really....the "alien presence", even IF
it is factual, does not necessarily imply that the
Moon is "artificial", as this thread posits. An ET race certainly could come visit, and decide to "camp out" on our natural satellite, given its
location and convenient tidal-locked behavior). Before we leave this, I'm doubtful about the Ham story, in general. About "overhearing". WIll have
to research actual frequencies used.
Also, the timelines. Here is an example, from shortly after Neil stepped off the pad, onto the surface, until Buzz began to exit the LM. It is a
compilation of the videos and 16mm films. The 16mm film camera (one) was called the "DAC" (Data Acquisition Camera), and here they merely say
"sequence camera", mounted inside the LM, and stayed there the whole time.
Note those numbers are MET - "MIssion Elapsed Time", in Hour:Min:Sec: and refer to points in the Surface Journal text:
Apollo 11 Lunar Surface Journal
109:23:25 to 109:25:00. QuickTime Video Clip: (1 minute 20 seconds; 4.0MB).
Sequence camera wide-angle film clip of Neil's first step, including the full length (about 15 meters) of the lunar module's shadow across the ground.
109:23:38 to 109:25:00. QuickTime Video Clip: (55 seconds; 2.3MB).
Television clip of Neil's first step.
109:25:30. RealVideo Clip: (2 minutes 38 seconds).
109:26:54 to 109:27:44. QuickTime Video Clip: (50 seconds; 2.3MB).
Buzz begins passing the Hasselblad camera down to Neil using the lunar equipment conveyor (“clothesline”). 16mm film clip.
109:28:01. RealVideo Clip: (2 minutes 55 seconds).
109:30:53. RealVideo Clip: (2 minutes 38 seconds).
109:33:25. RealVideo Clip: (2 minutes 48 seconds).
109:33:25 to 109:34:09. QuickTime Video Clip: (44 seconds; 2.8MB).
Buzz adjusts the sequence camera angle and records Neil beginning his contingency sample collection. 16mm film clip.
109:33:27 to 109:37:22. QuickTime Video Clip: (3 minutes 49 seconds; 7.2MB).
Armstrong scoops a few contingency surface samples, removes the sample bag from the end of the collector handle, and puts it in the pocket on his
thigh. 16mm film clip.
109:34:09. QuickTime Video Clip: (44 seconds; 2.9MB).
Neil scoops surface samples and rocks while describing the difficulty of digging deeper than a few inches. Dust is easily seen spraying from his boots
as he kicks against the topsoil. 16mm film clip.
109:34:54 to 109:35:35. QuickTime Video Clip: (41 seconds; 2.9MB).
Neil replies to Buzz's comment about how beautifully the sample collection is going by remarking on the beauty of the moon and goes on to describe the
rocks he's collecting. 16mm film clip.
109:35:43. QuickTime Video Clip: (50 seconds; 3.4MB).
Buzz and Neil discuss how far the sampler handle penetrates the surface. Neil throws away the ring from the contingency sample collection bag and Buzz
and he are amused by how far it travels. 16mm film clip.
109:35:56. QuickTime Video Clip: (4 seconds; 0.9MB).
Closeup of Neil tossing the collection bag ring away over his right shoulder. 16mm film clip.
109:36:07. RealVideo Clip: (1 minutes 59 seconds).
109:36:33. QuickTime Video Clip: (46 seconds; 3.2MB).
Buzz adjusts the sequence camera angle again. Neil struggles to secure the contingency sample bag in his thigh pocket but has difficulty because he
can't bend enough to see it. Buzz offers instructions from his perspective through the lunar module window and the sample is pocketed successfully.
16mm film clip.
109:36:47. QuickTime Video Clip: (5 seconds; 0.8MB).
Neil's helmet visor is up and his face is visible. Brief 16mm film clip.
109:37:30 to 110:48:10. QuickTime Film: (1 hour 10 minutes 40 seconds; 11.6MB).
Apollo 11 EVA - 1 Frame Per Second - 16mm DAC - July 20, 1969 by Gary Neff, source footage courtesy John Knoll. No sound.
Just before leaving the lunar module, Buzz set the 16mm DAC (data acquisition camera, or sequence camera) to run at one frame per second. The camera
was pointing down at the lunar surface from inside Buzz's lunar module _ During the following one hour ten minute sequence, the astronauts
perform a variety of surface activities, both within and beyond camera range. When they are off-camera, their dense, sharply-defined shadows often
remain visible, their activities obvious, and the action is like a silent Asian shadow-puppet theatre.
, selected from the sub-menu: "Video and Movies"
Also, found the official transcript, covers the same timeframe, to show their radio communications to each other, and MC. (A lot of the dialogue will
be in the videos, from the other link above, and should coincide).
I'll keep looking at it, but since the DAC remained in the LM (we can see the footage it filmed) and I see no obvious gaps in communications, if they
went off the "public" frequencies....so >shrug