Government to announce $2.5 billion for high speed rail, page 3

reply to post by neo96

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if you are spending the hard earned dollars of the american citizen you have the responsibilty to ensure that you spend that money wisely

Well, then I guess they should build no roads, libraries, police stations, fire houses, or one of a hundred other government establishments in this country.

Because somewhere out there is another guy just like you who is going to call it unwise. And we all know how wise and all powerful you certainly are.

This is the end of it folks. Neo says highspeed railing is unwise. Have fun with your Amtrak.

reply to post by Snarf

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I think there is going to be a large NIMBY factor for these trains in the United States too though. One thing that Europeans have gotten used to that will be different for Americans is the noise that these trains make. While the motors of electrical trains are far quieter than the diesels that your nation largely uses, when something that large gets going that fast it creates a lot of sound from wind resistance. It's not going to be the low rumble that people are used to with trains but a massive kind of "woosh" instead.

That and as I recall from my time in the US there are a lot of road crossings in America too. A car getting hit by a slow-moving freight train or Amtrak is still incredibly damaging to the car, but the odds of survival are even lower if hit by a train moving at over 200mpr. The British like to race trains at crossings just as much as Americans, and here it's not something many walk away from.

These crossings can be eliminated with bridges and soundproofing can be installed around rail lines but both of those are quite expensive. In the end, I believe that high-speed rail will be a great thing for your nation. It will seriously reduce travel times, add a ton of jobs and make the quality of life far better. (imagine instead of driving for 4 or 5 hours, sitting back and relaxing on a train for 2, all without the hassle of flying) However there are going to be a lot of complaints and the system is going to be fought on every level throughout development.

What you have here is an chance to build something on the scale of the Interstate Highway System, that big a public work, but it's going to be a hard fight.

reply to post by ProjectJimmy

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well you knew it was coming so here goes.. I can't exactly link you to it.

You see, I made acquaintances with a gentleman who wrote proposals for corporations. When I asked him about some of them he talked about a few but said most fell under Top Secret and he couldn't discuss them. I laughed and being me said things like "Oh, back engineered alien craft", etc. He would laugh and say no it's nothing like that and even it was (he would laugh) and say "I can't tell you".

Met him many mornings at a local coffee shop and he wrote on his laptop which he would take with him even to the restroom. One morning he abruptly headed to the bathroom and didn't take it. I couldn't resist so I sneaked a peek. I saw it was about Mag-Lev transportation and the page mentioned the implementation in large cities followed by connections across the USA. Something of a time frame of 5-10 years I noticed but wasn't sure what that referred to. He came back, we talked and I left.

The next time I saw him I brought up the topic of Mag-Lev trains and what made me tell him I saw it was the fact he said things like people have delusions about underground Mag-Lev trains and brought up conspiracy type stuff rolling his eyes. I told him he had to be joking because I looked at what he was working on. He got very angry and never denied it but said "You could place yourself and others at risk for doing things like that ...and you better not discuss this in public". With that he packed up and left and I never saw him again.

Take it for what it's worth, which probably isn't much. Did he plant that for me to see? Maybe. Did he know I 'd look and he had a fake document on the screen? Perhaps. All I can do is relay it. Could it be these new high speed trains are just that? Of course but I'd bet that Mag-Lev trains aren't too far away for public use. If not in 5-10 years then certainly in our lifetimes.

This nation has more than enough cars and roads. In fact, we have so many that we can no longer afford to maintain them properly. It's high time this country began to build a high speed rail system and 2.5 billion is nothing compared to what we're spending on unjust wars.

Every industrialized nation in the world, except the good ole U.S. of A., has high speed rail and it's a much more efficient form of transportation than we currently have in this nation. Unless of course, you enjoy traffic jams and waiting in lines at airports.

I just checked and there are currently 5,173 airborne planes being tracked in the skies above the U.S. and that's just right at this moment. flightaware.com... When compared to the air traffic in other nations, we blow them out of the water.

I wrote President Obama many times during the 2008 election discussing this very topic and expressing my opinion that we need this, like yesterday.

In what nation have high speed rail lines been a flop or a waste of taxpayer dollars? The availability of high speed rail will help reduce both automobile and airline traffic on our highways and in our skies while providing a cleaner, more efficient form of transportation. By the way, I think that Japan is also prone to earthquakes and they weren't "afraid" to build them there.

As usual, Neo96 and I are on completely different sides of this issue and I couldn't disagree with his opinion more than I do now. No S&F from me.

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