Russia + USA =World domination

Originally posted by devilwasp

B. you so greatly used laser guided bombs dont work here. the rain distorts the laser.


J. germany could not invade britain because we had air superiority ,if you had read about ww2 you would know that we were almost impregnable.

B. We have GPS guided smart bombs that would be used in a situation like this they are not effected by weather conditions


J. The RAF had air superiority for one reason only they had radar and the germans did not plain and simple. The germans had the best planes of WW2 thats why they were copied so much after the war. To think that germany could not invade England even without the united states help is pretty funny. The US might not have been in WW2 as long as England but the US put a end to it when we entered into it. Something England could not have done by themselves.



If a what if war like this ever happened it would not be fought as we fought in Iraq. It would be fought with large scale bombings of military and civilian areas.No PR crap we come as liberators stuff it would be ugly. Remember carpet bombing of germany? b52s raining down pain or planes dropping MOABs nowadays would be far worst . Some european countries have limited nuclear misslies but in no where near the numbers that russia and the US have so if they shot there few nukes they would be wiped out by massive nuclear strikes.

Also your sams or anti air missiles would shoot down our raptor or B-2 or other jets we would use the raptors ability to track and destroy cruise and air to air missiles also all those 747 with lasers on them what do you think they will be doing also not to forget about Russia if the Russians really do have plasma then your radar would not do a thing for you.

Originally posted by ShadowXIX


B. We have GPS guided smart bombs that would be used in a situation like this they are not effected by weather conditions


yes but you dont have our base coordinates. no 1 does


J. The RAF had air superiority for one reason only they had radar and the germans did not plain and simple. The germans had the best planes of WW2 thats why they were copied so much after the war. To think that germany could not invade England even without the united states help is pretty funny. The US might not have been in WW2 as long as England but the US put a end to it when we entered into it. Something England could not have done by themselves.


actually the germans had radar.they used it to guide their bombers and v rockets.i fyou look up you'll find that the spitfire was the best fighter something the messherschmit couldnt keep up with.the only reason you put an end to it was because of your numbers nothing else.we could not of ended it i agree but frankly we were impregnable.if you know thier plan ,operation sea lion, was to invade southern england and move forwards they done research on it,and we would have kicked thier asses.


If a what if war like this ever happened it would not be fought as we fought in Iraq. It would be fought with large scale bombings of military and civilian areas.No PR crap we come as liberators stuff it would be ugly. Remember carpet bombing of germany? b52s raining down pain or planes dropping MOABs nowadays would be far worst . Some european countries have limited nuclear misslies but in no where near the numbers that russia and the US have so if they shot there few nukes they would be wiped out by massive nuclear strikes.

oh yeah bring you massive nuke armerment into this every time you do. so what you will never fire them. cause if you do the UN willgo on your ass.also your saying that the usa military would be ruthless and just kill civies as well? shows how much your military has evolved.

Originally posted by WestPoint23
Also your sams or anti air missiles would shoot down our raptor or B-2 or other jets we would use the raptors ability to track and destroy cruise and air to air missiles also all those 747 with lasers on them what do you think they will be doing also not to forget about Russia if the Russians really do have plasma then your radar would not do a thing for you.

YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY 747 OPERATIONAL to hit the missiles. secondly you cant have a 747 flying everywhere. you can destroy 1 missile but if 4 are comeing at you ,you dont think.
the russain thing is the problem but frankly we're ready for it.

Originally posted by devilwasp

please tell me of one engagement between russain and american forces on the borders.
secondly the only reason you done it was for you not for any 1 but for you its what every country does ,look out for number 1.

the world free from the USSR ? as i remember it WE actually hepled thats right NATO helped as well so dont you dare even try to take all the credit as per ****ing usual!
also we paid to dont think we just sat on our asses 2, it was our homes our lands under threat we faught long and hard for our countries and lands.
exscuse me? we should feel honoured or owe 1 to the good old UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? listen if it hadnt even been for MY ancestors YOU wouldnt exist.
oh so your saying that the american army in all its greeat glory could defeat the best trained army in the world ,on its home turf?
not last a month are you kiddin me you have trouble with a country in the gulf now imagine a country with top of the line tech and troops and thats just 1 country we have a continent full of em. we out number you at least 2 -1

Well while the UK's military is formidible it would be quickly dispatched howerver the UK and US are more Allies than the UK/EU for now anyways so it would be the rest of EU dealing with the UK war machine.

Front line combat. Nope not Euripe but it was same enemeny Europe was to heavily fortified with M-1 Abrams for Russia to try and spread communism there.
historicaltextarchive.com...

More US front line combat with Soviet's
www.usatoday.com...

Please dont argue that these wars did not envolve the Soviet Union and the war on communism. You think NK and VN bought all those weapons with Rice?

Did you know that the United Nations and Nato are primarily funded by the United States of America tax payers as well?

Anyway no hard feeling and I appreciate Frances role in making the US what it is today. In fact thats why I am glad we were able to repay them in some way in WW2.

I do not agree with Bush policies. I just know our military intimately and have worked directly with Nato and EU and know what is what and well my previous statements are essentially true no matter how you spin it. We have much more than 747 with laser that was the test bed . Just do some google on modern laser weapons and defnce and you will get s amll feel for what is available. Then think black.
Anyway good luck to the EU as it will be a powerfull French controlled democracy =). France had to get a say so some how I guess..



X

Originally posted by WestPoint23
devilwasp we beat Iraq in 3 weeks this is not war now its post war. We fought two wars within 2 years and we beat two countries in 3 years both wars combined took about 3-4 months to finish. great Britain's navy 3 carriers half the size of the Nimitz and the rest of nato combine equals about 5-6 carriers the US has more than that alone, also britain's army is small and doesn't have money the US would kill it. The air force we have the raptor the JSF and our current jets still are the best after 30 years combined with russian migs its unstapable. So please devil great Britain would fall in 1-2 months tops US from the west Russians from the east they wont stand a chance. And if it wasn't for us you would have been taken over by the USSR, whose tanks were on the border with the USSR that's right US tanks, whose troops were on the front lines of Europe that's right the US, who helped you defeat Germany in WW2 that's right the US who gave you money to build your country after WW2 that's right the US so yeah you are in debt way over your head!

[edit on 28-6-2004 by WestPoint23]

Mate, THATS HOW F**KING STUPID YOU AMERICANS ARE!!! You belive your no longer at war... YOU ARE!! Your just to BLIND to see it!! The Iraqies are waging GURELLIA WARFARE with you DUMBASS and that was JUST Iraq!! Britain has one of the best trained armies, air forces and navies in the WORLD and we have the best elite force in the world... and you STILL think you can win?!

Oh and by the way ShadowXIX, Britain DID have Radar first, however shortly after the axis found out about it and they BOTH had radar during the 2nd world war. The RAF was still too strong for the Luftwaffer though!

one thing id like to know is how would it be quicly done away with?

Yes, it would be tough it too hitler 4 years to take HALF of europe, and he was very powerful at the time. Anyone who says that it would be done very quickly has NO idea how war works.

listen squid the Iraqis are not waging war at us it is insurgents not Iraqis also if we were going to take over the world why spare the lives of the civilians might as well kill them then you have one big play ground for weapon testing.

the iraqies ARE waging war with you... just not a normal war... saddam knew he cudnt win lik that so he "lost" easily then declared GURILLLA WARFARE dumbass

hmmm seems to me some of you are underestimating the power of lesser countries. Truthly if america , russia or whoever attacked Britain they would be putting too greater risk on themselves. Perhaps America has more equipment but that doesen't mean they are going to win any battle. Many battles throughtout history have had the stratgically planned and well trained armies defeat much larger armies.
If you actually take your heads from your asses you'll see the way they cant seem to stop the many attacks in Iraq probably because many american generals are too confedent that "they are the best" ect.

[edit on 29/6/04 by beef_spread]

well said beef_spread

Originally posted by The_Squid
Yes, it would be tough it too hitler 4 years to take HALF of europe, and he was very powerful at the time. Anyone who says that it would be done very quickly has NO idea how war works.

wrong

they took the netherlands,belgium,france,poland,finland,etc easily

the only problems to the germans were the CCCP and the UK/US

The US isnt part of Europe mate... anyway the UK was a problem, and it still took them about 4 years to get the whole lot!!

"Pride goes before fall."

Like Stalin's attempt to conquer Finland... some divisions even had red carpets and bands with equipment with them when generals thought they could march through Finland.

home.interserv.com...

Originally posted by The_Squid
The US isnt part of Europe mate... anyway the UK was a problem, and it still took them about 4 years to get the whole lot!!

you know the US where there on the 6th of July? right

do you mean Operation Overlord? and if so yes i know about that, but the US isnt PART of Europe!

oh yeah bring you massive nuke armerment into this every time you do. so what you will never fire them. cause if you do the UN willgo on your ass.also your saying that the usa military would be ruthless and just kill civies as well? shows how much your military has evolved.

They main power behind a massive nuke armerment is that it prevents anyone from using there nukes on us. Yes the US and russia could wipe out all life on earth many times over but no one wants to do that. This is a what if war not how the US fights now they are very much not into bombing civilian areas.

doesnt sound like it from west point. if thats your typical american generals view then you have no biusness outside your own country.