Hey folks, you are not ALLOWED to decide who your roommate is., page 2


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reply posted on 25-10-2010 @ 07:47 PM by Lemon.Fresh
Reply to post by Misoir


It is not a fact. Both sides claim the same thing of each other.

I have left the right-left paradigm a long time ago.

Start looking for right and wrong. Not right and left. And always err on the side of freedom.

Have a good day.



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reply posted on 25-10-2010 @ 09:23 PM by rogerstigers
reply to post by saltheart foamfollower



Ok, so getting back on target....

I am not Christian by any means and I see nothing wrong with an advert like that. Renting a room is one thing, but this is someone who is sharing the common spaces of the house. People have a right to choose who they want in their house. People (not corporations, although, as I understand, there is no legal differance anymore :@@ should be allowed to pick who they want to live with them and advertise as such.


reply posted on 25-10-2010 @ 10:41 PM by Misoir
reply to post by saltheart foamfollower



The problem with a sign that reads 'no totalitarians' will usually mean they will come in anyways due to not understanding what the term means. In addition you must please alert us of exactly what you mean by totalitarian?


reply posted on 25-10-2010 @ 10:48 PM by saltheart foamfollower
reply to post by Misoir



Well, see that is where the discussion begins.

Did you hear about the dentist or doctor in Florida that put up a sign that said No One that voted for Obama will be served here? Of course that will not stop people that did, but it gets the idea across.

Let us say I am a smoker and allow smoking in my store, then someone comes and whines that it smells like smoke in here and then sees someone smoking. They get all uppity and start whining. I would then point them at the sign and say, SEE no Totalitarians allowed.

Being that even though you are open to the public coming in, the line between private and public rights are to be observed. If the public person does not like something, they can LEAVE.


reply posted on 26-10-2010 @ 01:20 AM by saltheart foamfollower
Yes, this can be a sticky subject.

I believe the case for restrictions for race and ethnicity to be okay.

What I do not like is all the other PC crap flying around now. So let us say I am hiring, can I ask if the person is here in this country legally? NOOOOO, I cannot.

Let us say I wanted to hire some folk and I do not like socialists and communists? You know the type, those that think they deserve to run the company and share in the profits of the company. You know like GM and Chrysler. Can I ask that? NOOOO, I cannot.

I think people that run a company, sale or many other things, should and DO have the right not to hire or whatever, to those they have differences with, based upon almost EVERYTHING. Not race or ethnicity though.

Sorry, I must be a big bad meany if I think that if you OWN something, you have the right to do with it what you will.

This PC and government control crap is becoming communist. Telling you what you can do with your own property. Now, there are those out there that believe that the government should own everything. They sugar coat by saying it is socialism and it is the people owning the rights of production. That is bull. Who is going to enforce that? Always comes down to the government and central control. Amazing isn't it, when you start thinking about EVERYTHING the government sticks it's nose into.

Almost like you do not REALLY own your own property or self.



reply posted on 26-10-2010 @ 01:32 AM by BigTimeCheater
reply to post by saltheart foamfollower



Why shouldnt a business owner retain the right to decide who to hire or not hire due to race or ethnicity?

It's their business, their capital, their property, and they shoulder the risk of their business thriving or failing. Why should the government have the power to dictate hiring procedures?

Where is that power derived from?


reply posted on 26-10-2010 @ 06:00 AM by saltheart foamfollower
reply to post by BigTimeCheater



I know, I know, I know.

I am usually not a stickler for that but compromise has to be reached. Just not much give or take.

Now, on the other hand you have the mandates and such. Those should be eliminated.

Hey, if you have had employment hiring training lately, you would know about the myriad things you cannot ask. This does not mean you cannot hire who you want.

Anyway, I get your point.


reply posted on 26-10-2010 @ 11:28 AM by yadda333
Originally posted by 2Rotten4u
Fact of the matter is, that as the home owner, the owner may decide whom may reside in his/her quarters. You have to look at the bigger picture! Who pays the mortgage on the property? Who pays the taxes? With just those to questions presented, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who has the say so on whom may stay at the residence.

If you were the home owner, and you had children, would you advertise for the nearest child molester? No! You would advertise a specific type of person. ( hopefully if you had kids you wouldn't be in that situation to begin with, having a stranger around your kids, but you just never know)

The people do not have the right to not be offended! Case Closed~


ABSOLUTELY WRONG! You may not agree, but discrimination is not allowed under the Fair Housing Act.

www.hud.gov...

Title VIII of the Civil Rights Act of 1968 (Fair Housing Act), as amended, prohibits discrimination in the sale, rental, and financing of dwellings, and in other housing-related transactions, based on race, color, national origin, religion, sex, familial status (including children under the age of 18 living with parents or legal custodians, pregnant women, and people securing custody of children under the age of 18), and handicap (disability)


As far as the OP is concerned, they could have a case in that the dwelling is owner occupied and less than four units. Overall though, you simply cannot discriminate. Civil Rights Act people!
edit on 10/26/2010 by yadda333 because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 26-10-2010 @ 11:36 AM by SpectreDC
Originally posted by yadda333
Originally posted by 2Rotten4u
Fact of the matter is, that as the home owner, the owner may decide whom may reside in his/her quarters. You have to look at the bigger picture! Who pays the mortgage on the property? Who pays the taxes? With just those to questions presented, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who has the say so on whom may stay at the residence.

If you were the home owner, and you had children, would you advertise for the nearest child molester? No! You would advertise a specific type of person. ( hopefully if you had kids you wouldn't be in that situation to begin with, having a stranger around your kids, but you just never know)

The people do not have the right to not be offended! Case Closed~


ABSOLUTELY WRONG! You may not agree, but discrimination is not allowed under the Fair Housing Act.

www.hud.gov...

Title VIII of the Civil Rights Act of 1968 (Fair Housing Act), as amended, prohibits discrimination in the sale, rental, and financing of dwellings, and in other housing-related transactions, based on race, color, national origin, religion, sex, familial status (including children under the age of 18 living with parents or legal custodians, pregnant women, and people securing custody of children under the age of 18), and handicap (disability)


As far as the OP is concerned, they could have a case in that the dwelling is owner occupied and less than four units. Overall though, you simply cannot discriminate. Civil Rights Act people!
edit on 10/26/2010 by yadda333 because: (no reason given)


Considering that addiction is now treated as a disease and thus can be seen as a disability, can someone not be allowed to ask for their roommate to be a non-smoker?

I mean, that's clear discrimination against us with a severe addiction to nicotine!


reply posted on 26-10-2010 @ 12:05 PM by BigTimeCheater
reply to post by yadda333



Fortunately discrimination is still very easy, just under different wording.

As it rightly should be, especially to maintain private property rights which trump the easily hurt feelings of others.
edit on 26-10-2010 by BigTimeCheater because: (no reason given)

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