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reply posted on 25-10-2010 @ 04:03 PM by PsychNurse
Originally posted by Stillalive
yes but you saw what the g8 did to the canadians,who though they can just peacefully protest with theyr girlfriend, got jailed like animals.
our future is in the hands of hackers,and we all must protest by stop using some sites and spreading the message everywhere and writing thousands of emails flooding whoever we hate.


You have no idea what you are talking about. See that is the crap you already see on your news. You live 4576 miles away from Canada. I was following the event closely... small majority of them were acting like animals... looks like...acts like... treat like! Protest doesn't mean take everything you are mad at and focus on one event to let it out. Like I said the median age was 20 years old. Hardly the group presenting a peacful demonstration. we hardly deal with the same kind of police brutality that a lot of other countries have to deal with. Besides, they were jailed, charged and released... not brought to a camp...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

"There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States."

So knock the Canucks but what do you have in store for you? Who do you trust? Will they block out the list of detainees in these prisons? Oh no they will not because they don't have to... National Security right! We'll let you out when we let you out.
Funny thing is I feel like they are treating you like children... this is the parental controls they are initiating. Next they will ban the "Double Down" sandwich at Kentucky because your eating to many of them and getting fat...fatter.
All sarcasm aside... if this event should actually take place and you are all blinded from the internet upon a major event then there will be anarchy amonst your conspiracist, independant militia groups and not to mention the plethora of on line gamers(he he)! I'll keep an eye open for the hoard of WARCRAFT geeks storming onto the lawn of the White House.
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reply posted on 25-10-2010 @ 10:21 PM by Rhadamanthus
reply to post by Wyn Hawks



I agree with you 100%.

On the other hand I can see where people will believe that this is a step in the wrong direction just because of other doors that this policy might open.

Later down the road they might decide, "People are still downloading pirated software and music! They are using email to spread the links to these horrible sites! Now we propose that all email must be filtered and every American will be assigned a government issued email address, ISP's are to cease.....etc"


reply posted on 25-10-2010 @ 10:49 PM by v3_exceed
Originally posted by Wyn Hawks
...has someone on here actually read the bill?... if so, can you tell me where it goes awry?...

...my understanding is - - - - (1) its about protecting copyrights by penalizing internet sites that allow infringement or encourage it... (2) it wouldnt affect you unless you're a pirate or you enjoy watching pirated stuff... (3) it doesnt have international applications... (4) i cant see how my rights will be limited by it nor can i see how i use the internet will change because of it...

...the "we're gonna be like china and iran" fear seems baseless - but - heres a link to the bill, just in case someone's in the mood to read it and, then, point out why the hype is justified...


www.govtrack.us...


Ok, I am Canadian, so I know this will not really affect me. Secondly I know exactly how to get around these kinds of filters and have my own DNS servers so this will for sure not affect me.

The only thing the USA has real control over is the .com, .net and .org name space. So they might choose to delist domains that exist in these areas. Two things will happen if this is allowed to occur. 1) people (even Australia) will start to use recursive dns servers out side of their country and 2 people will use the hosts file on their local system to get around the filters.

eg: host file entry to circumvent dns filtering
75.126.76.151 abovetopsecret.com
75.126.76.151 www.abovetopsecret.com

This entry will allow you to reach this site even if your dns server is blocked, dies or fails for any other reason. Of course this only works if the servers you are trying to reach are listening for this connection, but it will still work.

This will affect anyone who reads the news, researches on the internet or just uses it for entertainment. This is no more geared toward stopping piracy than the Aussie blacklist is about stopping child porn. Once the collective governments assume control over something they do not relinquish it. A quick look at the Aussie list shows they are blocking a lot of sites that have nothing to do with child porn, and once a site has been targeted it is pretty hard to say what might have been blocked. So in that respect it will affect a lot of people.

Remember...the worst thing about censorship is ################ and ####### !

..Ex


reply posted on 25-10-2010 @ 10:57 PM by eNaR
Originally posted by PsychNurse
reply to
post by iceblue20-12



What's to think about... unless it is an American site then it will not have an effect on Canada, It will not be blocked from our Canadian servers. I don't believe Harper will stand for the US deciding what we can see and not see. I don't burn or download so I don't really care. and what's the connection... Aussie...Canuck? Hmmm... none.
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Harper's a conservative who, just like Mulroney did with NAFTA, will bow to any and all commands issued by the US.... Don't get me wrong, the Liberals, NDP and Quebecois are all a pack of conniving, lying snakes.....whereas the conservatives don't necessarily look out for Canadians interests when it comes to commands issued by our southerly masters !


reply posted on 26-10-2010 @ 12:20 AM by PsychNurse
Originally posted by eNaR
Originally posted by PsychNurse
reply to
post by iceblue20-12



What's to think about... unless it is an American site then it will not have an effect on Canada, It will not be blocked from our Canadian servers. I don't believe Harper will stand for the US deciding what we can see and not see. I don't burn or download so I don't really care. and what's the connection... Aussie...Canuck? Hmmm... none.
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Harper's a conservative who, just like Mulroney did with NAFTA, will bow to any and all commands issued by the US.... Don't get me wrong, the Liberals, NDP and Quebecois are all a pack of conniving, lying snakes.....whereas the conservatives don't necessarily look out for Canadians interests when it comes to commands issued by our southerly masters !


I can see why you don't like the Quebecois and the Liberals... Your from Western Canada. But times are different for the Conservatives now then when Mulroney was in office. The bowing we did kept us in the war this long. The amount of contraversy and accusations revolved around this war are the reason the Canadians are pulling out and going to Arctic to bolster Canadian sovereignty in the North. Starting with 600 infantrymen based in Quebec and Alberta will be the first to trade Afghan temperatures

Read more: www.vancouversun.com...

This is not the Mulroney Government. And please say "MY" not "OUR" Southerly Masters...

My only master is my wife!
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