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Chinese explore the "New World" over 4,000 years ago.

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posted on Oct, 25 2015 @ 03:56 AM
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For anyone who wants to look for connections between Chinese cultures and Native American cultures, I would suggest that you needn't look so far south as the Olmecs.

The Pacific Northwest, basically Alaska and British Colombia, is where you should start. It has been a while since I last looked over this sort of stuff a little, so I forget which peoples struck me as the more likely to be showing ~Chinese cultural connections, but there are some where it seems pretty strikingly similar and easy enough to spot connections, at least for a quick glance.



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: Blarneystoner

what a bull#
an european try to sell a book about China to Chinese. G0 ahead figure that out!



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 02:49 PM
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there have been chinese cave paintings found right down here in NZ.......agreed to be over 2000yrs old by chinese scholars.



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 04:49 PM
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originally posted by: hiddenNZ
there have been chinese cave paintings found right down here in NZ.......agreed to be over 2000yrs old by chinese scholars.


Link or it didn't happen.....



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: Blarneystoner
The "Shan Hai King" or "Shan Hai Jing" is the title of a series of volumes written in Chinese and compiled around 2250 BC. 18 volumes of the original 30 survive to this day and are considered the oldest known written geography.

These volumes contain written descriptions of geographical regions and landmarks that are easily recognizable. The explorers also describe finding precious metals and gemstones such as Gold, Opal, Green Jade, Fire Agate, Quartz and other minerals. Although the land form descriptions in the texts are mentioned only in a casual way, enough data is present, along with descriptions of flora, fauna and mineral findings to be fairly certain that these texts describe regions in the Americas.

The Shan Hai Jing was compiled from stories and reports of travelers over a long period of time by "Yu", the Minister to the Chinese Emperor Shun, who ruled about 4,000 years ago.


The Chinese classic, the Shan Hai King of about 2250 BC, contains what seems to be an accurate description of the Grand Canyon. Peanuts and maize have been found at ancient Chinese sites dating back to 3000BC. The orthodox view is that neither of these plants left their native America before their export by European colonists in 16th century AD.

Source:The Golden Age Project



The 14th Book of "The Shan Hai King" ("The Classic of Mountains and Seas") a written compilation by "Yu" at the request of the Emperor Shun, around 2250 B.C. which describes a land a distance of 30,000 "le" (10,000 miles) across the "Great Eastern Sea" (east of China). The land (North America 10,000 "le" or about 3,000 miles wide, from the Pacific to the Atlantic) has been referred to as a "Mulberry tree" by some of the ancient peoples of Mexico.

Source:Mysterious Arizona

Another interesting aspect of the theory that Chinese explorers came to the New World more than 4,000 years ago is the possibility of influence upon the native cultures.

Could the Mayan god, Kukulkan the "Bearded White Man" actually be one of those ancient Chinese explorers?

Others have provided more speculation:


That the source of the "Flood" stories and the Biblical legends told to the Conquistadors by the Indians, came from Buddhist teaching;

That the source of the Zapoteca, Maya and Azteca calendar was Asiatic;

That the source of early Mexican writing was Chinese;

That the source of the high cultures in both Peru and Mexico of the fourth and fifth centuries—as well as the "Mongolian spot" and the epicanthic eye-fold, can be attributed to Chinese explorers;

That the basis for the story of Naymlap, in the Province of Lambayeque, Peru, is true and derives from these same sources;

That the source of knowledge of weaving, ceramics, feather-work and metallurgy, together with an understanding of astronomy and mathematics came with the Buddhist priest;

That the root of the earliest Mexican religious philosophy, the dual principle, stems from the Chinese Yin and Yang, the positive and negative theory, and came with the earliest Chinese explorers, more than 4,000 years ago.

Source: Internet Sacred Text Archive

While the evidence for the contention that the Chinese were in the New World over 4,000 years ago remains anecdotal, the prospect is fascinating nonetheless.

There's plenty of information out there, simply search for "Shan Hai King" or "Shan Hai Jing".

~Blarney





Fascinating, but in order for Buddhist teachings to have influenced multiple things you mentioned, the Chinese would have had to continue their involvement with the New World at least until the first several centuries AD, when Buddhism spread more heavily to China.



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 05:08 PM
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originally posted by: tetsuo

Originally posted by RedBird
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How could there have been a "Buddhist priest" 4000 years ago? Buddhism itself is only about 2600 years old. Siddhartha Gautama was born ~600BCE.

And the concept of the "yin yang", is only about 2200 years old - the notion of a balance between feminine and masculine energies originated with the Confucian school ~200BCE.

I am not at all opposed to the hypothesis of ancient Chinese exploration of North America, and there may very well be evidence for that, but the narrative that you have presented is very, VERY, inaccurate.


Not that I support or deny this claim, but another member on ATS (IndigoChild) has posted some interesting evidence that Siddhartha Gautama's creation of Buddhism along with many other eras in Indian history are off by about 1,200 years:
Part 1: www.abovetopsecret.com...
Part 2: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Very interesting ideas. I doubt mainstream history would be willing to even re-examine the evidence and see if there is anything of substance in this area, though, much less accept that India has been around for so much longer than currently considered.


That is doubtful. The history of Buddhism is quite well documented, including approximate dates.

What is more murky is the ages of the Hindu epics, which predate Buddhism. Buddhism came out of Hindu society.



posted on Jan, 2 2016 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: Marduk
I dont know why im bothering,cause you will no doubt link a wiki article and call it a hoax,even though you know nothing of NZ history
www.elocal.co.nz...



posted on Jan, 3 2016 @ 01:28 AM
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a reply to: hiddenNZ

seriously?
If the case is true, then it is confirmed Chinese was originated from New Zealand, in this case Maori. The Maori ppl row canoes to today so called China and built kingdom there and started building long wall.



posted on Jan, 3 2016 @ 01:33 AM
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originally posted by: hiddenNZ
a reply to: Marduk
I dont know why im bothering,cause you will no doubt link a wiki article and call it a hoax,even though you know nothing of NZ history
www.elocal.co.nz...



I don't know why you're bothering either, the article you linked to states that it was a proto Polynesian people that did the carvings
The


There was little doubt that the Chinese archaeologists had correctly interpreted the site as a prototype Polynesian culture circa 7000 years BP. Further, the jade carvings, pottery styles, string games and buildings on piles of the Hemudu people, unknown in other parts of China, were similar to ancient Polynesian people, such as the Lapita culture.


Are you perhaps reading into these articles things that you already want to believe....




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