Originally posted by Chett
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
Saying congress shall make no laws is not separation of church and state. The founders had no problem with the church, they held prayers in congress,
they had a problem with things like official state religions. The words that get thrown around all the time 'separation of church and state' appear no
where in the founding documents, they are a later interpretation at best.
I just love how people focus on one particular comment that was a part of a complete posting.
Especially when what I said was something many people in judges robes have decided on many times over.
You are being far too literal, like the previous person, attacking words and not comprehending the meaning.
Or the spirit of the law.
Of course the original topic is about the United Nations and the Vatican interfering in Middle Eastern politics.
Not just the 1st Amendment even if I brought it up it was in regards to the U.N. needing something similar.
Thomas Jefferson had a letter written to him concerning the 1st Amendment and here is a quote from him.
Quote from : Separation of Church and State : Thomas Jefferson and the
"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an
establishment of religion, prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State."
Thomas Jefferson, the writer of the Declaration of Independence
wrote that there, and he wrote it within the confines of legality towards both
giving power to the Church, without Government, but as well limiting Church from interfering with Governmental affairs due to the history of both the
Church of England and the perversion of the Vatican.
Both the Church of England and the Vatican have been known to influence and generally screw up how the world works, due to their perverse control over
Government, something they have no right to, nor should they be allowed to because religion in the wrong people's hands can and will lead to severe
persecution of people outside the defined and hypocritical righteousness of religions which only pervert society when and if they are not checked
within a power structure.
of the Middle Ages, or Dark Ages, as they are also know, comes to mind.
The current conflict between Christianity and Islam is only a continuation of the Crusades
to this very day.
That the Vatican is yet again opening their lip-servicing mouth to interfere anywhere in the world is detrimental.
Because as much as the Vatican is proselytizing against Israel or Palestine, she is slipping a knife in everyone else's backs.
Doing exactly what she claims others should stop doing which is occupying other countries against their wills.
Chett, before you go saying anything about separation of Church and State
again, please do remember.
This is about the entire topic of the thread and not one thing someone said which covered the entire topic.
Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association of Connecticut
was reiterating his intent.
In other words, Jefferson backed up his original intent of the 1st Amendment, when he wrote the legal document.
While technically, the words separation of Church and State
never appear, their meaning through intent
Intent is the legal meaning behind the formation of a legal draft as it is more powerful because it defines all of the words
Have a nice day.
edit on 10/24/10 by SpartanKingLeonidas because: Adding Depth and Insight To The Post.