The Conspiracy against Sexual Energy

reply to post by LordBucket

Would you like to clarify your question?

Certainly.

That said, aligning the lower chakras, having a system well able to accomodate energy flow, and having a suitable reserve of energy would generally make one a more suitable target of sexual expression.

So, are you saying that people who are very successful in relationships, are Vedic Masters?

Or, that they even know what a Chakra is?

-Edrick

wilheim reich was jailed over his experiments and belief in "orgone energy", the supposed energy released through orgasm. when harnessed, was said to have healing properties.

Originally posted by LordBucket

Ok. But then why perceive it as sexual energy if it is not constrained to that form? If it is energy that may be expressed in writing, or music, or in love, or intellectual thoughts, or sex...isn't it energy, rather than "sexual" energy? Isn't the "sexual" part just one totally arbitrary expression of that energy?

Im a believer that everything is about energy. Everything. All of life, society, money, love, birth, death. Sexual energy is one peculiar aspect of that overall energy.

reply to post by tonypazzo


Right on. Someone else also mentioned him earlier.

Reich maintained that the institutional suppression of sexual energy/libido(later to be physically represented by the literal orgone cosmic energy) was the sole cause for neurosis.

Also, he said, Fascism would arise from the neurotic masses because of the institutional suppression in society.

Later on, Anton Lavey cleverly used Reich's and other similar ideas as a basic belief system to form a healthy and neurosis-free community which poked fun at the ignorant and neurotic establishment.

I think he said in a documentary something like "If your going to do something naughty, recognize your doing something naughty and enjoy it!"

Lavey also recognized that all of the powerful occult societies were controlling the masses through the institutions which suppress the sexual energy, while they themselves were practicing 'sacred sex' to maintain healthy and powerful 'energies' to cement their power.

It really is interesting, the way things have panned out over the last couple millenia in this grand experiment of sexual suppression.

As others have mentioned, the greatest ancient civilizations recognized the power of sex - it is only recently that the anglo and islamic world have taken this experiment to such an extreme.

James DeMeo has extrapolated Reich's ideas in an interesting way, with his book Saharasia the idea is that this sexual suppression and male oppression is the reason for the desertification of northern Africa.

Great thread, Sky!

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
For what it may be worth and if one can discard the guru nonsense, there is actually something to this which may or may not warrant further inquiry: www.selfgrowth.com...

Indeed. The energy of the root chakra behaves differently than the energy of, say, the heart-chakra. Actually any person who has had his share affairs can attest to this. If its only a root-chakra Relationship, one can easily let go. If heart-chakra is also involved it gets more complicated.

reply to post by Edrick

So, are you saying that people who are very successful
in relationships, are Vedic Masters?

Or, that they even know what a Chakra is?

It's not necessary to know about electrical wiring to able to flip a light switch.

Aleister Crowley also covers this sort of thing in his 8 lectures on yoga, and probably elsewhere!

Cool thread, I'm interested in the idea that sex without orgasm can boost the energy levels of your chakras faster than normal. Would merely thinking of sex or watching porn without masturbating do this also? (Mrs would not be impressed )

Originally posted by GENERAL EYES

Sexual relations have never be "easy" for a large percentage of people to begin with, and it's highly probable that by reinforcing only ONE aspect (visual) in favor of other factors will have a devestating effect in the long term.

Interesting point you raise here. Some savvy marketing-man could come along and add smell and touch to the mix. I figure thats what they are working on in their virtual-reality labs.

From what Ive seen, much of the porn beng filmed is kind of fast-food like, kind of low-quality, kind of sterile and heartless. I dont know why porn is filmed that way. I think they could do much better Business if they put some thought into it.

Originally posted by The Quiet Storm
In fact, sex causes most wars and violence.

The problem is, people are not educated on sacred forms of sexual practice like tantra and karezza. Normal ordinary ejaculatory sex causes depletion, chaotic dopamine cycling, habituation to the partner, not to mention satiation. ie the coolidge effect.

I still learn new things every day - I had never heard of karezza. Thanks for sharing.

reply to post by ANSPHAR


Good you bring up Reich. I had forgotten all about the good ol guy. If the Government felt it necessary to publicly burn his books he most have touched on something very sensitive.

reply to post by March of the Fire Ants

I'm interested in the idea that sex without orgasm can
boost the energy levels of your chakras faster than normal.

I would expect that such a practice might tend to pool energy in the lower chakras, as you would be directing it there without releasing it. But is this a desireable result? What are you trying to accomplish? Even if your goal were something like "become a sex maniac" I would think increasing flow rate both in and out would generate a more pleasing result than generating a large, stagnant pool of energy and setting a precedent of not allowing it to be released.

You might also want to distinguish between "sex with orgasm" and "sex without climax."

In any case, it would be easy enough to experiment.

reply to post by spacevisitor


Thanks for the interesting addition.

Just curious: What reason do you think there is for Burkahs if not a subconscious rejection of female energy...

reply to post by Skyfloating


Great post! I agree with everything you said. Those were very mature points of view.

reply to post by Skyfloating

What reason do you think there is for Burkahs if not a subconscious rejection of female energy...

In terms of energy exchange, hijab serves several purposes:

1) It directs the female focus in a similar manner as a wedding ring. When male and female forces are "docked" with one another, the female is receiving that male input, and only that male input. Such devices serve as proxy "docks" by reminding the female that it is or will be designated to receive a particular input.

2) It provides a barrier to other male inputs, in a manner similar to plastic coating on an electrical wire. A woman covered by cloth is less acessible to random men just like insulated wire is less accessible to random current.

3) It helps to keep women at a level of development where they are more easily controlled by providing a symbolic "block" on the head between themselves and "higher powers" in a manner similar to a kippah, and similar to the symbollic beheading performed during a knighting. It is difficult to maintain control of an individual freely communicating with higher powers than the intended controller. Additionally, by inserting a "break in the circuit" of their energy system, the flow of their energy is hindered. With no flow, it is difficult to advance, thus making it easier to keep someone at a level of development where submission is a suitable expression.

I don't mean to suggest that these are bad things. Western culture likes to promote this idea of "freedom of expression" for women, but this has consequences which might not be well understood. A painter does not create a portrait by leaving his canvas out in the rain and allowing passers by to paint on it. One does not get a clear television signal by removing the insulation from a cabe line. Female energies behave similarly even when manifest in human beings.

Originally posted by Edrick
I see revulsion in this thread over people who look at Pornography.... and yet I see no anger regarding the Situation where women participate in MAKING porn.

Porn serves the purpose to provide a place for people to "vent". On the positive side it may be the #1 Rape preventer.

I dont feel "revolusion" towards porn. I am merely questioning what overexposure leads to. And also whether too much Masturbation depletes ones life energy, as the far-eastern philosphers claim.

reply to post by LordBucket

It's not necessary to know about electrical wiring to able to flip a light switch.

But you MUST KNOW about electrical wiring to Install the Chakras...

Your analogy makes Panda Sad.

-Edrick

Originally posted by LordBucket

Is it possible you're attributing more significance to sex than is really warranted?

Sex-industry is the biggest in human History. Its not me attributing significance but society at large. And yet...do a search on ATS looking for threads on Sex and you`ll hardly find any. Thats Odd.

Are you suggesting we impose artificial scarcity to inflate our perceived value of sex?

Is limiting ones own porn-consumption to one video a day instead of ten imposing "artificial scarcity" or merely a matter of discipline so that energy can also be invested elsewhere?

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Originally posted by Skyfloating
From what Ive seen, much of the porn beng filmed is kind of fast-food like, kind of low-quality, kind of sterile and heartless. I dont know why porn is filmed that way. I think they could do much better Business if they put some thought into it.

as far as i know porns are usually made for men. i won.t go so far that men are usually attracted by fast-food and therefore porns the way they are, are just good for men, but they claim that it won.t work on women since women usually can.t seperate sex and love.

which might be true!

i don.t know how it is with other people or in a theoretical way, sex is a very personal subject and so i usually take it personally

to me sex is much more than just the act with a partner or masturbation – it is connected with love and caring, and when being connected with love and caring you can set its truly energy free.
there is also the key for creativity. it is about love - doing your stuff with love and with caring and it gets better

so suppressing sex creates the exact opposite of love as we see with the example of the pedophile abuse by some catholic priests.

usually most people are not in balance with their sexual life - to much on one hand and starving on the other hand.
the balance has to be found by everybody on her own.

i am usually scared by the prudish hysteria about sex as it is presented for example in american media. or as somebody in this thread said: keep sex away from children.

we are all sexual beings right from the beginning of our life. but our sexuallity expresses differently in each phase of our life. sex is also sensualism - the german word for it can also be translated by sexiness (just found it out) - so if you watch a mother nursing her baby with her breast- nothing better nothing more sensual - the baby is not only getting food it gets a whole world of stability, love and caring.
if you watch it you will realize that it utterly enjoyes it.
and also the mother experience feelings that can be described as sexual feeling but totally different from those she experience with her partner.

and this is not meant in a pedophilia way.

so the best - in my opinion and being a mom of a meanwhile teenager - is to talk to kids, to tell them about it in a way they understand. this helps them to find their own balance one day.

it develops during our life and with the beginning of puberty it changes to be the way we are experience it today

being a woman i have the pleasure of experience sexuality in a cyclic way. some women seem to hate it. but to me it is always a joy to experience myself in that way - like a wave - there is the moment when you know that there is the possibility to create a new life - and even the menstruation reminds me of that power!

it is cyclic like the seasons and even the cycle of being pregnant creates a powerful feeling in me.

sometimes i feel pretty pity for men who are not aware of this. who are not able to experience this.

i think it is important to combine sex with love and caring and honesty.
honesty towards yourself and honesty towards everybody else.

reply to post by Edrick

you MUST KNOW about electrical wiring to Install the Chakras...

...are you planning to design physical vessels for inhabitation by consciousness any time in the near future?

Remember, your previous post was asking about people having succesful relationships. One does not need to "install chakras" to accomplish this. One merely needs to pleasingly relate with someone.

Your analogy makes Panda Sad.

Your non-comprehension fills me with joy. Here's a bunny.