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If you don’t seem to be attracted to any particular thoughts offered, well…that’s good too.
Bertrand Russel's Cosmic Teapot anology regarding religion's unfalsifiable claims.
I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is an intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.
“Within the realm of “Flatland”, what manner of “verifiable evidence” could the two-dimensional scientists have sought out (or even recognized AS “verifiable evidence”) to confirm the validity of a three-dimensional sphere?”…
“Would the absence of “verifiable evidence” (if this turns out to be the case) related to the existence of the three-dimensional sphere actually confirm its non-existence and, if so, would this claim, this conclusion of non-verifiability/non-existence be "true" only to the laws and beliefs associated with the two-dimensional Scientific Doctrine?”
Originally posted by Khurzon
Originally posted by dn4cer2000
reply to post by schuyler
It is my belief that when the body dies, the mind dies (since it cant live without the body) hence the ego dies, then we are liberated. All it's left is our consciousness.
* bows * with respect, I would debate...
You state: "All is left is our consciousness?"
So in this state, if you were asked. What have you learned?
You would not respond as you are only consciousness; which implies a lack of organized thought, or ego?
Correct me if I am mistaken, but isn't ego what forms things like sentences? thoughts? responses? questions?
It calculates, tabulates, constructs, performs and creates things?
Does not ego recount our memories?
Cannot the Spirit retain memories, and in some more refined form, the ego?
You don't learn to drive a car so you can then walk to where your going...?
It is my intuition that the pure state of consciousness is the first form of existance we learn.
In forms such as...different forms of energy... and, elements such as earth, air, fire and water...
We then incarnate to more complex forms like bacteria...and so on...
Each becomming more complex, until we incarnate in creatures that can develop mind and ego.
It is ego that can detatch itself from the "whole" of the singular cosmic source of mind to form "new" things...
New creations will lead to advanced technologies and immortality, which will free us from the wheel of karma and reincarnation...
The zero-point, etheric realm retains the imprint of your consciousness/spirit/ego, and melds this with the greater self...
You remember many other names and lives, but they are still all you...
As an example:
The ego that cried without shame at age 2 and was called "Junior".... is the same ego of the deeply compassionate adult of age 62 named "Senior"
Or.. like the caveman "uhnuhuh" who raged at the storm filled skies, who is also, later, "Carl" gazing in deep respect and admiration at the images from Mars...
Carl will remember being Uhhnuhuh, but is called neither anymore...
Both could "create" things, and now, his "greater self" will go on to create even greater cosmic wonders...with it's more refined version of all it's prior egos...
And creation is what it is all about, no?edit on 21-10-2010 by Khurzon because: spellingedit on 21-10-2010 by Khurzon because: changed:New creations will lead to advanced technologies and immortality, which will free us from the wheel of karma... To: New creations will lead to advanced technologies and immortality, which will free us from the wheel of karma and reincarnation...
Whoever started this, You no longer have my support. We’re not the problem; You are. I want out of this pattern. I want You to let my people go. I want You to free us from the shackles of this cycle. If there is not already a movement with similar ideals and goals, it starts here. If there is, point me where to sign up. I am going to devote every ounce of strength I have, at whatever level, to break out of this hell You have created for us.
Originally posted by seamus
I want to urge you, please consider what I say. You are very close to realizing who you are. If you really want to, you can do it.
You are it, you're calling yourself out. When you are ready to take full responsibility for yourself, you're in for a surprise.
You are ever-so-close to the truth. Just give up, realize that you can't and never could help doing any of the things you did, nor could you stop the things that were done to you. If God is logical (It is!) and existence sensible (It is), then you must have agreed to all of this before you were born. YOU have the potential to realize that you are a piece of God in the world, sent here to gather experience and bring it home when the time comes. If and when the end of your existence comes, there will be nothing you will be able to do about it, nor will you have to strain and exert yourself to make it happen. It will happen all on its own.
All you need to do to realize your god-hood is accept responsibility for all of your existence.
I suggest perusing roage.com and roage.free-forum.net. There is an abundance of information there on how you can become a sovereign; a bona-fide son-of-god-on-earth.
Let go. Accept. Judge not.
Those are three synonyms for love, and until you can think of Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer without judgment, you don't have it. We are one.
Seamusedit on 26-10-2010 by seamus because: messed up quote blocking