Drug companies pay 17,000 U.S. doctors, report finds

Drug companies pay 17,000 U.S. doctors, report finds

www.reuters.com

(Reuters) - More than 17,000 doctors and other healthcare providers have taken money from seven major drug companies to talk to other doctors about their products, a joint investigation by news organizations and non-profit groups found.

(visit the link for the full news article)

LOL!

Still trust the medical industry?

It's becoming just as corrupt and sold-out as our laughable excuse of a gov!

This whole system is disgusting. Our medical 'professionals' are becoming bought and paid for shills and drug dealers for the pharmaceutical industries, who are some of the most corrupt and endlessly greedy entities on earth right now.

Now more than ever is time for people to look into healing themselves, through homeopathic and natural remedies, rather than relying on these individuals to drug you up with every synthesized compound out there.

Oh wait, that is why increasing pressure and laws are being put up to criminalize holistic healing and supplements. Ugh....

www.reuters.com
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Why doesn't this surprise me at all?

Thanks for the thread DD, S + F'd.

CX.

that is sick! thats kinda like soliciting and bribery rolled into one! shame on the docotors..theyve sold out, breaking the oath of helping n taking care of those sick, to only those who have money* shame shame

reply to post by DimensionalDetective


AS ALWAYS BIG CORPORATIONS RUN THE COUNTRY.
I BET THEY KEEP ALL CURES LOCKED IN A DARK LITTLE BOX SOMEPLACE.
THINK ABOUT IT, WY CURE PEOPLE WHEN YOU CAN CHARGE THEM RENT(VACCINE) TO STAY ALIVE.
MORE MONEY YES YES..............

it ticks me off big time..knowing companys i used to trust, Bayer asprin, Advil, RObitussin, might be invovled in paying off or bribing an educated life giver* Tell the patients to use our products, not the store brand or competitor ones*
People have aright to use what they wanna use, its called freedom of choice* it loks to me , judging by the insane stomach and sleeptime commercials....side effects may include 72 hour erections, hearing voices, anal and nose bleeding, and in one commercial, stomach i think....side effects may include mild schizophrenia..discontinue use and consult a doctor.
imagine that..a medical lab made this crap..mild schizophrenia, all over soothing some stomach acid reflux* it really sounds better to just put a gun too yuor head if its that bad, than resort to the side effects..really it does: X
well, i bet hose doctors all have mercedes and BMW's and porches..typical of a successsful wealthy doctor. the pill companys do not care about yuo and me..listen and read about the side effects. its like thier making frankenstein pills for corporate profit* not yuor health*

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THE LESS STUPID PILLS YOU TAKE THE LESS CHANCE YOU HAVE OF BEING SICK IN THE FUTURE.
MEDICATION TURNS INTO DEPENDENCE, AND THE SIDE EFFECTS ARE HORROR TO THE BODY.
ITS ALL IN THE BIG PLAN TO KEEP THE PEOPLE AND POPULATION AT BAY.

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they are saving the sick....... Themeselves!

I believe the drug companies mentality is why give someone a one time cure when you can treat the condition for the rest of their life. As advanced as we have become in the field of medicine is sickening to realize how drug companies operate.

Health care never should be treated as a business. This is why I am for universal health care. No one and no company should profit over matters of life and death.

I wonder how many kickbacks or bribery money the CDC has taken* i work in retail. Its known state helath officials have taken bribes form store managers you know* i cant say its attorney general invovled, but i know a story or 2* when i was 16, working in a local grocery store, this was around 1991, 3 white robed health inspectros came in one day..they were checking the heat and conditions of the ovens used to cook chickens. i didnt see what they did back thier, but leaving in the middle of the store, tall man with robe from health department, his pen pcket was nearly packed with money* it wasnt thier when he walked in.
My manager at work told me an interesting story, years and year ago, at a competitor market he managed. health inspector lady came in one day. thier was a clearance on lots of plastic tupperware. she wanted it. so to make the report look good, she wanted the tupperware, and entire market carriage full of them. he madea d eal with her. however, it was caught on tape, so he gave her an altimadum then.. you can have the tupperware and get fired, or leave the tupperware and pass me the good grade*
She saw him at another store like a year later. he asked for the good grade without question* so he was somewhat sneaky about it lol but it was her that started it. she worked for the state of CT, health department. made me wonder how far up the chain of command offenses can go. in this one, its about pharmacutical comapnys and doctors* sick

Not at all surprised. Really. I'm sure 1000's more are paid off and its ridiculous. It directly effects the elderly as they are for the most part very trusting of doctors therefore taking heed of all advice and getting all recommended prescriptions.

S+F

What really reeks of underhandedness is the fact that as the public became aware of the pharmaceutical industry's practices in wooing medical practitioners they became very concerned.... so the Big Pharma solution?....

Pay doctors to talk to other doctors for you; thus keeping your own records looking like you didn't 'influence' the medical industry.... networking 'a la' pyramid scheme..... They must have hired a consultant from AMWAY to think this one up.

Nice catch!

If they're willing to pay doctors off like this how much do you think they're willing to pay disinfo agents to spread opinions attacking HCR?

I have several friends who are "drug reps" for a pharmaceutical company (one of the major companies) and they tell me all of the time, how much money the spend on whining and dining various doctors (not in a figure but in an abstract way). It's crazy, as they are basically bribing these doctors to prescribe their medications.

When I was probing and asking questions, a female friend of mine who is a drug rep, told me that if a doctor is compliant and prescribing alot of brand name medications from that particular company, they will often reward this doctor with a "consulting" job, that basically means they get a free paycheck.

Most doctors not only comply, but is becomes sort of a competition and the results are basically that soctors are over-prescribing and giving you medications that you don't need. This is bad for several reasons, none that I will get into, as i'm sure we are all aware.

I believe that this is a draw back to corporations taking over the family practice. Hardly ever do families "know" their GP. You know, personally know him/her. It used to be where a family had a GP and they knew him personally. Now because of corporate take-overs and the threat of litigation or malpractice insurence, most of the independent docs have been driven out of the business and families no longer "know" their physician, which ultimately enables doctors to make money by drugging their patients.

Now don't get me wrong, I think that "big pharma" is just as responsible, but as the cookie crumbles here in the US, whoever has the most money, has the most influence with congress and government.

It's sad really. I don't take any medicine prescribed to me by a doctor that I don't know. If I have to see a specialist and he prescribes me medicine, I do a lot of research on my symptoms and the medicine, then ask my doctor that I know and trust before putting it into my body.



--airspoon

I agree with airspoon(as usual), in that I have numerous friends that are Pharma rep's and they too have commented on how so many doctor's get excited to make what is around a hundred dollars usually per new product/sample they receive. Often times they say the doctor's don't even want to hear the speel about the new drug, just sign them up and give them the 100 dollars. What strikes me, besides the obvious potential of "profits before people," is how the doc's get giddy sometimes over a hundred dollars. Of course if that is 100 dollars per visit from each rep, that could add up, but where is the altruism?

Peace,
spec

Well it's no surprise. Go to a doctor and for sure you will have high cholesterol/ high blood pressure/ or something that will require you to get a long term prescription.

Only 17,000? that's it?
There's probably a LOT more than that.

A good friend and the owner of our house is a pediatric doctor in TN. He lowered our rent because he knows we can't afford much, but last month he said he needed an extra $100 for the mortgage. Apparently he wasn't getting some kind of monthly bonus at the hospital because he refused prescribe a certain medication for children. He told the hospital he didn't think it was a necessary med, and he didn't think it would be safe for long term use. I think it's disgusting how they try to push meds on people, all for profit. At least there are still some good docs out there.

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Thanks for posting.

just 17000? No way in the hell is that low number. I have a friend that work as pharma rep... they buy the doctors left and right with all kinds of gifts like free tickets, vacations, travels to convetions in some resourt, free etc.

One day I was waiting at lobby of commercial building with lots of doctors offices. It was disgusting to see how many pharma reps were waiting in the lobby to talk to the doctors in that building.

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective

Drug companies pay 17,000 U.S. doctors, report finds

www.reuters.com

(Reuters) - More than 17,000 doctors and other healthcare providers have taken money from seven major drug companies to talk to other doctors about their products, a joint investigation by news organizations and non-profit groups found.

(visit the link for the full news article)

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