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posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
The UK is still a great place and brilliant country mate. I'd invite you to visit and see for yourself of course.


Ah. So should I visit Oldham?


Latest police figures show a record level of race attacks in the Greater Manchester town, with 60% of reported victims being white.


or perhaps East London?


Just over a year ago Reid was heckled by the Muslim extremist Abu Izzadeen in Leytonstone, east London, during a speech on extremism, appropriately. “How dare you come to a Muslim area,” Izzadeen screamed.

Or maybe you meant Bury park area of Luton? Nah, you probably shouldn't go there either...


In which case, I suggest Hague heads a few stops east of Westminster, along the Mile End and Whitechapel Roads, where Muslim monoculturalism holds sway. Or visits Leicester, Bradford, Burnley, Oldham or parts of Birmingham.


Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...




Thanks for the invite, but I think I'll pass...

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posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by Califemme
Yes, I have experienced socialized healthcare, my dad was military. It was actually better than most of the world's socialized medicine precisely because it's here in America.

As for your "what if I" scenarios.... so what if I do? Is that YOUR problem, or mine? If I get a disease, or cancer, is it my employer's fault that I can't do my job? Should they be penalized? Or is it MY fault, through genetics, diet, exercise, or what have you... isn't it then MY responsibility if I want to live?


Should I live the "American Dream" by expecting others to do for me if I can't? Is it MY responsibility to give every homeless person money who asks for it? Is it MY responsibility to feed the masses who either won't or don't take care of themselves?

Do you? Is that what I should spend my days doing, taking care of everyone else's needs over my own? You talk of "slavery" but isn't that exactly what you are asking ME to do? Subsidize everyone ELSE'S shortcomings in healthcare, food and housing?

You say "Stop fighting against the government, because if it wasn't for government life in America would be hell" but I don't see anywhere in the constitution that says that government must provide jobs, healthcare, housing and food. If you see that, please point that part out. I must have missed that part when I read it.

Perhaps you are unaware that the "American Dream" is that anyone, from anywhere can come here, with $0.00 and make a way for themselves, per their own ability, sweat and conviction.


Whether it is health care, education, employment or most other areas of our lives, I ask you: Who has the capacity to master all the complexity to make choices on behalf of others? Each of us possesses only a tiny percentage of the knowledge that would be necessary to make totally informed decisions in our own lives, much less the lives of others. There is only one reason for the forcible transference of decision-making authority over important areas of our private lives to elite decision-makers in Congress and government bureaucracies. Doing so confers control, power, wealth and revenue to society’s elite. What’s in the best interests of individual members of society, such as a person who’d rather launch a landscaping business than purchase a health insurance policy, ranks low on the elite’s list of priorities.


frontpagemag.com...

I guess my point is that YOU are responsible for you and yours, and if you can't or won't, then you are headed down the path of slavery, not this soft socialism where we are at now. If the government CAN'T do it's J-O-B that it is tasked to do by the American people without coming into my house, following me around and stealing from me and the next generation, then perhaps it's time to revert back to the constitution for answers. Now if only there was some group advocating a return to those days.... Taxed Enough Already Party, anyone?







You've experienced American socialized healthcare, so why are you worrying about Romanian socialized healthcare? Of course we can make our socialized care better! Just as our basketball is better than China basketball.

Fault is placed and highlighted in primitive societies. Do you wish to continue in a primitive society? Do you wish to hold this entire world back from advancing? Because in a truly advanced society, no one is allowed to fail. In our nature, pack animals are usually considered more advanced than species which live life solitary. They're usually more successful also because it's more than just one, but many working toward the species survival.

I learned in the Army that you're only as strong as your weakest link. If we allow our weak links to be miserable that only makes our country more vulnerable.

I don't give homeless people money too often either, because I tell them they have a safety net to fall back on and they should have food stamps.

How do you equate helping someone to slavery?

Hell, the constitution didn't originally have liberty for minorities or women, did you agree with that? And do you realize life would suck if not for our government?

Anyone can come here and make it huh? Don't buy into that koolaid, very few (in comparison) actually MAKE it. Most of us are merely serfs who are fed a pipe-dream that we can "one day if we work hard enough be in the same shoes as the elite". That's nothing but a carrot held in front of the tortoise. Every now and then lightning strikes and 1 person per 3 million people make it big. That's about the same odds as the lottery, actually I think the lottery has better odds.

If you know someone is out to kill you, a professional, so you hire someone to guard your family, but you strictly prohibit what that guard can do, how can you complain when the assasin has a gun to your families head? All the assassin has to do is wait for you to enter your home, which is off limits to your guard and sneak in. You're then at the mercy of the assassin.

So you want to revert to the original constitution where minorities were property and women...well I guess they were too?



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by DZAG Wright
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Actually I work for myself...

I should have clarified that medium to large businesses and corporations should have their taxes raised.


Bwahahahaahaha!!!!

You "work" for yourself... then you are technically a "Small Business" doncha know. Do you think Obama's going to give YOU a tax break, Mr. Small Business?



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 03:48 PM
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It totally depends upon the business size and income.



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by Califemme
Right!! Like the DEATH TAX!!!! Because it's YOUR fault if YOU DIE!!





Wow, did you just say "DEATH TAX"? Even most of the far, far, Right realized how silly that was.



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 03:53 PM
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What's silly about that? You die and the kings men paw through your property taking what they want.

The king makes bank everytime a plebe dies.


 
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posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
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Too funny how the "next step of civilization"'crowd so often comes to the inevitable "when we meet aliens" conclusion.

There is just as much dystopian and libertarian scifi as there is magic replicable provides for all utopian socialist scifi. Turn off the Star Trek and pick up a book. Or at the very least stop forming your opinions of authoritarianism on the off chance a bunch of happy Borg will look down on us as a whole for not forcibly assimilating people like myself.


 
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Don't watch Star Trek, but can you imagine if intelligent life is capitalistic? We'd be fish food. Let me give it this way; do you think God runs a capitalist society or what?



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 03:56 PM
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In the US inheritance has to be claimed as income on your taxes. Sounds like a death tax to me.



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by Califemme
Bwahahahaahaha!!!!

You "work" for yourself... then you are technically a "Small Business" doncha know. Do you think Obama's going to give YOU a tax break, Mr. Small Business?






Yeah technically I'm a small business...so why am I not crying about any tax raises?

Kinda makes me remember we had one of our local football players on Sports Talk and they got into a bit of politics. The ball player told the host that he was Dem and the host was surprised saying that with all the money he makes he should be Repub. Doesn't he know that the Dem's will tax more of his money. The ball player said he has enough money and it doesn't hurt him to give more than everyone else. He's more blessed than most. ****PAUSE****

It took a big, unselfish person to say something like that!!!

With greater power comes greater responsibility.



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 04:07 PM
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That's an attempt to catch the true crooks in this country who are rich and haven't contributed to society in any manner. It's too catch all of the hidden money. This country has money...it's just being hidden by rich people and hoarded.

It's like you living in a house with me in winter time, and I rig the vents so all the heat flows into my room. So you and everyone else in the house is freezing and complaining the heat doesn't work.

Now applying this to how people think, you and the others freezing will fight the repair man saying I have a Right to have all the vents/ducts leading to my room. While you're fighting the other residents of the home for a candle for warmth. This is what the American people are doing.



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by DZAG Wright
I learned in the Army that you're only as strong as your weakest link. If we allow our weak links to be miserable that only makes our country more vulnerable.

I don't give homeless people money too often either, because I tell them they have a safety net to fall back on and they should have food stamps.

How do you equate helping someone to slavery?

Hell, the constitution didn't originally have liberty for minorities or women, did you agree with that? And do you realize life would suck if not for our government?

Anyone can come here and make it huh? Don't buy into that koolaid, very few (in comparison) actually MAKE it. Most of us are merely serfs who are fed a pipe-dream that we can "one day if we work hard enough be in the same shoes as the elite". That's nothing but a carrot held in front of the tortoise. Every now and then lightning strikes and 1 person per 3 million people make it big. That's about the same odds as the lottery, actually I think the lottery has better odds.

If you know someone is out to kill you, a professional, so you hire someone to guard your family, but you strictly prohibit what that guard can do, how can you complain when the assasin has a gun to your families head? All the assassin has to do is wait for you to enter your home, which is off limits to your guard and sneak in. You're then at the mercy of the assassin.

So you want to revert to the original constitution where minorities were property and women...well I guess they were too?


We are only as strong as our weakest link? Do you mean that?

Please show me where in nature this occurs naturally. Surely, there studies done on wild animals who fight to the death to protect the old, weak and/or feeble, yeah? They would never run off in packs to leave the "weakest link" to fend for themselves, would they? Or would they? Was it not taught to you that the law of nature is "Only the STRONG survive?" That "Survival of the fittest" is how a species evolves?

Life is not fair. Show me where these "angels" who protect the "weakest links" live, I wanna join their cloud.

By the way, is your home filled with bums and high school dropouts?


As for your contention that the Constitution didn't "provide" freedom for women and minorities, I would refer you to the opening line of the United States Declaration of Independence written by Thomas Jefferson in 1776:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

Now, perhaps you think it was the WHITE man who owned the first black slave in America, but I can assure you, it was not. The first "Slaveowner" in America, was, in fact, a black man. And he sued to keep an indentured servant as a slave!


One of the few recorded histories of an African in America that we can glean from early court records is that of "Antonio the negro," as he was named in the 1625 Virginia census. He was brought to the colony in 1621. At this time, English and Colonial law did not define racial slavery; the census calls him not a slave but a "servant." Later, Antonio changed his name to Anthony Johnson, married an African American servant named Mary, and they had four children. Mary and Anthony also became free, and he soon owned land and cattle and even indentured servants of his own. By 1650, Anthony was still one of only 400 Africans in the colony among nearly 19,000 settlers. In Johnson's own county, at least 20 African men and women were free, and 13 owned their own homes.

In 1640, the year Johnson purchased his first property, three servants fled a Virginia plantation. Caught and returned to their owner, two had their servitude extended four years. However, the third, a black man named John Punch, was sentenced to "serve his said master or his assigns for the time of his natural life." He was made a slave. www.pbs.org...



And by the way, nowhere in the world has a black man freed blacks. In all the countries that outlawed slavery, not one was governed by black men. And I believe it was blacks in Africa who sold their "heathen" black brothers, not white people. Imagine that.



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 04:11 PM
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Alright, I left this thread to go grab some food and watch a DVD and now it's exploded.

A lot of people on here are implying that taxes under Obama have either gone up or stayed the same, can I please see those numbers?

Also, just to make sure everyone knows, this is about tax policy and public perception, not about race relations or any such off-topic stuff.



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by DZAG Wright
Yeah technically I'm a small business...so why am I not crying about any tax raises?

Kinda makes me remember we had one of our local football players on Sports Talk and they got into a bit of politics. The ball player told the host that he was Dem and the host was surprised saying that with all the money he makes he should be Repub. Doesn't he know that the Dem's will tax more of his money. The ball player said he has enough money and it doesn't hurt him to give more than everyone else. He's more blessed than most. ****PAUSE****

It took a big, unselfish person to say something like that!!!

With greater power comes greater responsibility.


O.M.G. Did you just use a multi-millionaire as an example?!? You make as much as an NFL player?? Then by gosh, I wants all your monies!!!!! I don't make NEARLY anything like that, even if I worked 80 hours a week for the next 10 years!!

No wonder you don't mind paying extra taxes.



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by Califemme
We are only as strong as our weakest link? Do you mean that?

Please show me where in nature this occurs naturally. Surely, there studies done on wild animals who fight to the death to protect the old, weak and/or feeble, yeah? They would never run off in packs to leave the "weakest link" to fend for themselves, would they? Or would they? Was it not taught to you that the law of nature is "Only the STRONG survive?" That "Survival of the fittest" is how a species evolves?


Humanity in nature protects its weakest members.

"Survival of the fittest" can apply communally as well as individually. If a species works together so that the weaker members of the species work together with the stronger members the collective survives better and therefore cooperation is a selectable trait.



Life is not fair. Show me where these "angels" who protect the "weakest links" live, I wanna join their cloud.


Hospitals, soup kitchens, homeless shelters, insane asylums, schools, etc.



By the way, is your home filled with bums and high school dropouts?



Wow, nice straw man.



As for your contention that the Constitution didn't "provide" freedom for women and minorities, I would refer you to the opening line of the United States Declaration of Independence written by Thomas Jefferson in 1776:


The Declaration of Independence is not in any way a governing document nor is it part of the Constitution of the United States of America.



Now, perhaps you think it was the WHITE man who owned the first black slave in America, but I can assure you, it was not. The first "Slaveowner" in America, was, in fact, a black man. And he sued to keep an indentured servant as a slave!


What does this have to do with the thread? Also, the source you provide is the first instance of black slavery in the colonies. It later became illegal to own any slave that was not black in the USA.



And by the way, nowhere in the world has a black man freed blacks. In all the countries that outlawed slavery, not one was governed by black men. And I believe it was blacks in Africa who sold their "heathen" black brothers, not white people. Imagine that.


What about Haiti?

I honestly don't get what slavery has to do with this issue, it's about taxation and the fact that the vast majority of Americans are insanely misinformed about current tax policy.



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 04:17 PM
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The story makes for good lip service for Obama's supporters in an effort to make him seem like he has accomplished something positive. However, the true reality is bitter and the White House would prefer you to ignore this reality.

In Obama's first two years taxes have gone up!!. Reality Check.
According to Americans for Tax reform the 111th Congress has actually enacted $352 billion in net tax hikes. So these often boasted stimulus related "tax cuts" are only the calm before the storm when all of the Tax Hikes kick in.

Personally, I never saw a dime of any of these Stimulus related tax cuts.

Don't forget the hikes that are waiting for you under the blanket of Obamacare!!


Individual/Employer Mandate: $65 billion

-Cadillac Plan Excise Tax: $32 billion

-Interactive Effects: $46 billion

-HSA/FSA Taxes: $19.4 billion

-Reinsurance/Risk Adj: $106 billion

-Small Biz Paperwork Tax: $17.1 billion

-Medical Itemized Ded. Tax: $15.2 billion

-Medicare/Investment Tax: $210.2 billion
-Tanning Salon Tax: $2.7 billion

-Excise Taxes and Fees: $112.6 billion

-Economic Substance/Misc. $26 billion

Obamacare Tax Hike Subtotal: $652.2 billion


Hey Smokers!!


-Tobacco tax hike: $65.5 billion

S-CHIP Tax Hike Subtotal: $65.5 billion


Follow a link to see the reality of the tax cuts. I love the "shovel ready" item in the stimulus cuts. Didn't Obama just say that there is no such thing as a shovel ready project.
Read more: www.atr.org...##ixzz12qEvA3no

TAKE THE ROSE COLORED GLASSES OFF PEOPLE!!

I like this part the best

Most Tax Hikes were Permanent, Most Tax Cuts were Temporary

Seven Dollars of Permanent Tax Hikes for Every Dollar of Permanent Tax Cuts



Read more: www.atr.org...##ixzz12qGQFfgX
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posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by DZAG Wright
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That's an attempt to catch the true crooks in this country who are rich and haven't contributed to society in any manner. It's too catch all of the hidden money. This country has money...it's just being hidden by rich people and hoarded.


Wow, just wow. This is too rich!! So, when that "rich" person has paid taxes already on every dime he has made, invested or saved, you think he SHOULD pay taxes on top of that because he's HOARDING it??

How old are you? 10?


Tentative tax
The tentative tax is based on the tentative tax base, which is the sum of the taxable estate and the "adjusted taxable gifts" (i.e., taxable gifts made after 1976).

The federal estate tax is repealed for one year in 2010 and will return to 2001 rates and rules in 2011. For decedents dying after December 31, 2010, the tentative tax will be calculated by applying the following tax rates[19]:

For amounts not greater than $10,000, the tax liability is 18% of the amount.
For amounts over $10,000 but not over $20,000, the tentative tax is $1,800 plus 20% of the excess over $10,000.
For amounts over $20,000 but not over $40,000, the tentative tax is $3,800 plus 22% of the excess over $20,000.
For amounts over $40,000 but not over $60,000, the tentative tax is $8,200 plus 24% of the excess over $40,000.
For amounts over $60,000 but not over $80,000, the tentative tax is $13,000 plus 26% of the excess over $60,000.
For amounts over $80,000 but not over $100,000, the tentative tax is $18,200 plus 28% of the excess over $80,000.
For amounts over $100,000 but not over $150,000, the tentative tax is $23,800 plus 30% of the excess over $100,000.
For amounts over $150,000 but not over $250,000, the tentative tax is $38,800 plus 32% of the excess over $150,000.
For amounts over $250,000 but not over $500,000, the tentative tax is $70,800 plus 34% of the excess over $250,000.
For amounts over $500,000 but not over $750,000, the tentative tax is $155,800 plus 37% of the excess over $500,000.
For amounts over $750,000 but not over $1,000,000, the tentative tax is $248,300 plus 39% of the excess over $750,000.
For amounts over $1,000,000 but not over $1,250,000, the tentative tax is $345,800 plus 41% of the excess over $1,000,000.
For amounts over $1,250,000 but not over $1,500,000, the tentative tax is $448,300 plus 43% of the excess over $1,250,000.
For amounts over $1,500,000 but not over $2,000,000, the tentative tax is $555,800 plus 45% of the excess over $1,500,000.
For amounts over $2,000,000 but not over $2,500,000, the tentative tax is $780,800 plus 49% of the excess over $2,000,000.
For amounts over $2,500,000 but not over $3,000,000, the tentative tax is $1,025,800 plus 53% of the excess over $2,500,000.
For amounts over $3,000,000, the tentative tax is $1,290,800 plus 55% of the excess over $3,000,000.


So, if I have $10,000 saved up when I die, you think I'm RICH?!?



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by madnessinmysoul


Life is not fair. Show me where these "angels" who protect the "weakest links" live, I wanna join their cloud.


Hospitals, soup kitchens, homeless shelters, insane asylums, schools, etc.


And where do these "Angels" get the FUNDS to continue doling out free #?

Oh yea... those pesky rich people again.

Obama's Plan to Reduce Charitable Deductions for the Wealthy Draws Criticism
Some charities and nonprofit experts are worried that President Obama’s proposal to impose new limits on charitable tax deductions for wealthy people would dampen giving at a time when charities are under severe strain because of the recession.

philanthropy.com...

Read it and weep.



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by Califemme
We are only as strong as our weakest link? Do you mean that?

Please show me where in nature this occurs naturally. Surely, there studies done on wild animals who fight to the death to protect the old, weak and/or feeble, yeah? They would never run off in packs to leave the "weakest link" to fend for themselves, would they? Or would they? Was it not taught to you that the law of nature is "Only the STRONG survive?" That "Survival of the fittest" is how a species evolves?

Life is not fair. Show me where these "angels" who protect the "weakest links" live, I wanna join their cloud.

By the way, is your home filled with bums and high school dropouts?


As for your contention that the Constitution didn't "provide" freedom for women and minorities, I would refer you to the opening line of the United States Declaration of Independence written by Thomas Jefferson in 1776:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

Now, perhaps you think it was the WHITE man who owned the first black slave in America, but I can assure you, it was not. The first "Slaveowner" in America, was, in fact, a black man. And he sued to keep an indentured servant as a slave!


One of the few recorded histories of an African in America that we can glean from early court records is that of "Antonio the negro," as he was named in the 1625 Virginia census. He was brought to the colony in 1621. At this time, English and Colonial law did not define racial slavery; the census calls him not a slave but a "servant." Later, Antonio changed his name to Anthony Johnson, married an African American servant named Mary, and they had four children. Mary and Anthony also became free, and he soon owned land and cattle and even indentured servants of his own. By 1650, Anthony was still one of only 400 Africans in the colony among nearly 19,000 settlers. In Johnson's own county, at least 20 African men and women were free, and 13 owned their own homes.

In 1640, the year Johnson purchased his first property, three servants fled a Virginia plantation. Caught and returned to their owner, two had their servitude extended four years. However, the third, a black man named John Punch, was sentenced to "serve his said master or his assigns for the time of his natural life." He was made a slave. www.pbs.org...



And by the way, nowhere in the world has a black man freed blacks. In all the countries that outlawed slavery, not one was governed by black men. And I believe it was blacks in Africa who sold their "heathen" black brothers, not white people. Imagine that.






Well there is a difference between humanity and animals. Even then, there are species of animals who defend the weak or injured of their pack. Go slap that lioness with the broken leg on it's azz and see if the other lions leave her. Do the same for elephants.

Yes life as we know it isn't fair. But this is what we speak and thus create. We don't even ATTEMPT to fix the problem but rather bathe in it. It's the mantra for plenty of sociapaths.

No my home isn't filled with bums and drop-outs, but I pay my taxes and don't cry about it. I don't even miss it.

Your piece about slavery can be taken as offensive it's so ignorant. I will admit that white america didn't invent slavery, as even the article you provided points out. What white America did was chattel slavery and race based. Prior to American slavery, anyone could be a slave or servant.

I'll get into the rest of your slave jibberish later...



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 04:26 PM
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What's the old biblical line mate? Something about taking the log from your eye before mentioning the splinter in mine, as I recall.

Now I could easily just retort in kind, show you some stories out of Detroit or Fresno, but really that wasn't a sporting shot. We both live in in industrialized modern nations of course we'll both have some crime. Please do come back with a better argument.

If you're trying to insinuate that ethnic troubles are tearing my nation apart, then you obviously do not know much about British history. On top of this I'd simply ask you how your nation possibly survived the 1960s with all of the troubles you had compared to the few we do today?



posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by DZAG Wright
Well there is a difference between humanity and animals. Even then, there are species of animals who defend the weak or injured of their pack. Go slap that lioness with the broken leg on it's azz and see if the other lions leave her. Do the same for elephants.

Yes life as we know it isn't fair. But this is what we speak and thus create. We don't even ATTEMPT to fix the problem but rather bathe in it. It's the mantra for plenty of sociapaths.

No my home isn't filled with bums and drop-outs, but I pay my taxes and don't cry about it. I don't even miss it.

Your piece about slavery can be taken as offensive it's so ignorant. I will admit that white america didn't invent slavery, as even the article you provided points out. What white America did was chattel slavery and race based. Prior to American slavery, anyone could be a slave or servant.

I'll get into the rest of your slave jibberish later...


As for the slavery gibberish, you started it with that # about bowing down to the governemnts whims... which I like to call "slavery". I just added the rest because it's informative.

Well there is a difference between MY money and YOUR money, but I am not advocating the government take from you to give to someone less fortunate, but YOU are.

You want to steal from me to give to some vague idealisitc notion you have about who "deserves" to be taken care of. I don't.

I have my own family I'd rather take care of.

I have my own special interests I'd like to give money to.

I have my own ideas about how hard I should work and how much money I should make, but for some reason, you disagree with these things.

You'd rather have a middle man (aka the Government) come to take what I have worked for to give to some one else.

You must have fun with your kid's halloween candy.





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