reply to post by MAC269
Well whether Christ actually called himself God or not is important to the issue, I would like to know more about that. For example did he not say he
was sent from God at the very least?
L. Sprague de Camp put together a list of requirements for UFO authenticity.
(1) The report must be first-hand.
(2) The teller must show no obvious bias or prejudice
(3) The teller must be a trained observer
(4) The data must be adequate and available for checking.
(5) The teller must be clearly identified.
While some may debate whether or not a pilot is considered a trained observer I personally believe it doesn't get any more trained than that. So yes I
believe also that airline pilots are quite credible witnesses so long as the reports fit all the above criteria.
Also there are a variety of things that may be considered a UFO many of which are not necessarily of ET origin. Though that is the majority view. I
tend to lean in that direction as well.
Consider the following quote from (Robert A. Freitas' book Xenology.)
"Meteorological -- subsun, sundogs (parhelia), moondogs (paraselene), lenticular clouds, noctilucent clouds, mirages, "dust devils", St. Elmo’s
fire, grindstone clouds, solar reflections on low-hanging clouds, lightning (ball, streak, chain, sheet), Brocken ghosts, green fireballs(around NaCl
crystals or dust), swamp gas flickers (ignis fatuus, methane combustion,"will-o-the-wisp"), large flattened gliding hailstones, sun glint off shiny
objects, rainbow-related phenomena, bolides, ducted ground light reflection, ice flakes, coronal effects, tornado lightning, volcano lightning,
Earthquake-Associated Sky Luminescence (EASL), AgI used in cloud-seeding, pile d’assiettes clouds(stack of coins), ice halo, pilot’s halo
Astronomical -- meteors, fireballs, satellite reentries, auroras, planets (Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn), stars (Capella, Sirius), objects seen
through haze/jet trails or magnified by temperature inversion, Moon, sunspots and solar flares, comets
Experimental and Technological -- balloons sandwiched between dense air layers, test aircraft unconventional aircraft, helicopters with bright lights,
high-altitude projectiles, rocket launches, contrails, aircraft reflection or after burners, bomb tests, refueling operations, searchlight
reflections, military flares, satellites, blimps, parachutes, radiosondes and pibals, landing lights
Physiological and Psychological -- autokinesis (perceived motion of stationary objects), autostasis (perceived stopping of moving objects), "airship
effect"(perceived connection of separate sources), "excitedness effect", hallucination and mass hysteria, afterimages, autosuggestion(seeing what one
is looking for), entopic effects(retinal or vitreous humor defects within the eyeball), motes on the cornea(perceived as spots), astigmatism and
myopia, failure to wear glasses, reflections from glasses, religious invention
Photographic -- development defects, internal camera reflections lens flare, deliberate fakes (moon, street lamps, garbage can lids, phonograph
records, hubcaps, lens cap suspended by thread, straw hat, Frisbee, models, window glass reflections)
Radar -- temperature inversions and ducting effects, ionized gases in upper atmosphere, angels, bogies, phantoms, false returns (ice-laden clouds,
birds, insects), "window" (long strips of chaff), ranging/calibration balls, hot-air bubble reflections
Biological -- airborne debris(leaves, feathers, milkweed seeds), "angel hair"(gossamer spider parachutes), birds or flocks of birds, insect swarms,
luminous fungi on birds, fireflies, glowing owl eyes, seagulls, moths, tumbleweeds
Industrial -- detergent foam, soap bubbles, refuse from defective filter in chemical-industrial plant (milk, rayon), smoke plumes
Miscellaneous -- kites, firefly trapped between window panes, radio astronomy dish, plastic bag with candles or flares, searchlight & headlight
reflections off clouds, flashing ambulance light, tossed lighted cigarette, fireworks displays, reflection off building’s windows, airborne loose
paper, beacon lights and lighthouses, water tanks, lightning rods, TV antennas, weathervanes, hoaxes "
When one takes all these phenomenon into context they must then rule out beyond a shadow of a doubt all of these aforementioned examples before you
can surely say it was of possible ET origin. I think this is why so many have a hard time believing in UFOs as being strictly and or solely
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