Originally posted by Chinesis

I don't trust people over the internet, much less women who are
prone to suggest their emotional responses somehow warrant validity.

Then why do you even participate in a public forum in which exchange of information is the basis for which discussion is held?

Unless you've done your own research (which you haven't)

Neither have you.

Unless you know the exact make-up and chemical compound of McD's foods (which you don't)

Neither do you.

You have no factual basis on the matter with regard to decomposition.

Apparently, you have no idea what facts dictate biodegradability.

The fact is under basic atmospheric conditions McD's food will resist mold and decomposition.
Longer than other food(s).

1. Please provide "research" or data for such claims.

2. To what basic atmospheric conditions are you referring?

YOU are a walking....errrr...posting contradiction.

This is why I don't eat fast food unless it's the last option on Earth. I ate enough of it as a kid. Thanks for the info.

Just like when you clean out your car and find those year old fries They proably taste the same as the day you bought them, I haven't tried though

This is a Mcfriendly environment we live in, and McDonald's like all others is about the almighty dollar

Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd
Then why do you even participate in a public forum in which exchange of information is the basis for which discussion is held?

I don't post to satisfy you, or your expectations.
I post because I choose to and I see through your empty words which have ZERO
factual validity in them.

Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvdNeither have you.

This is the point I made. I don't insult people as you do, nor condescend, and this
is what I take offense to...how you treat people and how you talk to them.

Your decorum (lack-thereof) is the problem here.
You have a right to your opinion, and many opinions you do have.

You don't (however) have the right with impunity to act as judge, jury and executioner
with your singular wit and one dimensional facade and attack people as you do.

People like me will call you out on it every time.

Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd1. Please provide "research" or data for such claims.

2. To what basic atmospheric conditions are you referring?

YOU are a walking....errrr...posting contradiction.

Now I'm like McDonald's...I'm luvin it!

Since you cannot prove even a nano-particles worth of the amount of claims you make routinely
YOU shift (or deflect) the burden of proof on me....circular logic much?



The FACT is:
You, NOR I are qualified to make claims concerning the aforementioned topics introduced
in this thread.


I know from personal experience (for a certain period of time) I ate nothing
but McDonalds and it ruined me. Since you nor I can get to the source of
how the food is actually manufactured (citing such Bull# organisations such as the FDA
dissolved credibility) you haven't a SINGLE clue about how our food supply
is regulated, tainted and consistently genetically enhanced, modified and tampered with
from its most natural and pure state to recombined crap the FDA calls food, and they
aren't the only organisation that does this.

At one point, asbestos was ok, and Mesothelioma wasn't caused by breathing it in.

I have no issue admitting I'm not qualified because I cannot produce empirical data.
I can comment on my REAL WORLD EXPERIENCES based on: real world occurrences
I have personally been through.

Insulting people either by proxy, or through a passive aggressive persona
gets old and ruins discussion. Since you've been here a long time why not
act like a professional and give respect where its due, to EVERY human being
that posts here?

Originally posted by Chinesis
Since you cannot prove even a nano-particles worth of the amount of claims you make routinely
YOU shift (or deflect) the burden of proof on me....circular logic much?

Not really sure if you realized this, but, the article and YOU are making claims, not me. I'm simply pointing out the flaws in your logic. My original post included the following "claim"

Put this meal in a plastic bag in which there will be ample water activity and there is no doubt that microbes would devour a happy meal.

...which doesn't need "proof" as it's basic mycology. Think Water Potential.

The only other points I've made, directly responding to you, have been rebuttals in which your fallacious logic was promptly revealed.

You, NOR I are qualified to make claims concerning the aforementioned topics introduced
in this thread.

Speak for yourself. And, honestly, if that's the case, why are you making claims on the aforementioned topics? Ridiculous.

I know from personal experience (for a certain period of time) I ate nothing
but McDonalds and it ruined me.

Great. Ruined me too. The difference is I know WHY it's unhealthy.

Since you nor I can get to the source of
how the food is actually manufactured (citing such Bull# organisations such as the FDA
dissolved credibility) you haven't a SINGLE clue about how our food supply
is regulated, tainted and consistently genetically enhanced, modified and tampered with
from its most natural and pure state to recombined crap the FDA calls food, and they
aren't the only organisation that does this.

You haven't a single clue what I have a single clue about.

I have no issue admitting I'm not qualified because I cannot produce empirical data.
I can comment on my REAL WORLD EXPERIENCES based on: real world occurrences
I have personally been through.

See, the sad thing is you can't even realize the flaw in this statement. Whatever your real world experiences tell you....they'll never tell you why! WHY?

anyone else ever noticed that about an hour after you eat mcdonald's you always take a crap that smells just like their french fries? just to let all of you know no one working in the back of a mcdonald's is ever wearing gloves, and they aren't exactly the cream of societies crop back there. take it from me and stick to fries and nuggets only.

I've had some fairly nasty smells come from fast food left in my car by friends (who were nice enough to leave food in my car - that's a right I reserve, dicks).

As for fast food and diets in general - your body is made to consume all kinds of various compounds and break them down into usable ones. The vast majority of compounds are non-toxic. Over 90% of what is out there is not toxic. It may not have nutritional value, and it may not be the best idea to consume it - but it's not toxic in all but the most extreme doses.

One of the cool things about being one of the latest species on the planet - we're much more hardy than our predecessors.

You're not going to convince me that a happy meal is all that much more unhealthy than the fried potatoes and almost every other meal that came out of my grandmother's cast iron pans. It may have been all natural from the garden, but full of enough calories and bacon grease to give a tiger a heart attack.

My family rarely ate fast food. I have a general rule when eating food - it needs color aside from yellow and brown. I can look at almost any person who is overweight - including my brothers - and see their plate full of nothing but starches and protein. Now - protein and carbs are very important, particularly in colder times and/or when you are expending more energy. However, you also need the "colors" - vitamins and various other chemicals that aid in metabolism and keeping you healthy. You also don't need to be eating 4,000 calories per day when the most intense physical activity you do is walking up and down stairs when you get home from school to play video games.

Obesity and various medical problems have less to do with what we eat and more to do with how we eat it and how we live. America is different from many other countries in our low population density and large rural and suburban areas. We find ourselves driving rather than walking not only out of convenience but out of practicality. This is also reinforced by our independent natures (we would rather drive ourselves rather than anchor our movement around bus/train schedules). We tend to stay indoors at our jobs doing repetitive work at a computer or in a limited area at a factory or retail store, to come home and relax by watching TV or playing games.

When we eat, it is often in an expedient manner - we have a tendency to over-eat and to eat only one or two meals a day. This impacts our metabolism, slowing it down considerably. Our typically repetitive jobs obscure what is a dietary problem (lack of being alert and awake is blamed on boredom and sedative activities) and this is further compounded by our leisure activities (which are vegetative in nature). It is rare for many families to have a meal together as a family, and even more rare for that meal to include balanced nutritional value.

Many of this nation's problems can be solved with eating breakfast, eating smaller amounts more often, and choosing to go take a walk in the afternoon (or some other mildly physical activity) as opposed to watch TV. Even marital and relationship counselors are recommending couples take a walk together instead of vegetate in front of the TV.

In short - you can eat fast food. It's probably not the best idea to eat it every day, but the most important thing would be to balance it out. The problem is that fast food consumption is as much of a symptom as it is a problem. Our time-strained society answers the problem of not having enough time to make a meal through fast food. It's a quick-fix, on-the-fly solution. Fast food consumption will, strangely enough, correlate with lower income single-parent families. It will also correlate with hours spent watching television and hours spent playing video games.

Fast food is a solution to many who already have an unhealthy or vulnerable lifestyle, and will therefor be cited by many to be a problem when it is only an aggravating factor.