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John Titor on: his time machine

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posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 04:07 PM
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The ATS John Titor Project Archiving the history of comments and statementsmade by "time traveler", John Titor. Topical breakdown of topics from the material in the main archive. John Titor On The Time Machine.02 November 2000 01:00 I saw the posting requsting the basic systems for a gravity distortion system that will allow time travel. Here they are: 1 Magnetic housing units for dual microsignularities. 2 Electron injection manifold to alter mass and gravity of microsingularities. 3 Cooling and x-ray venting system 4 Gravity sensors (VGL system) 5 Main clocks (4 cesium units) 6 Main computer units (3) 05 November 2000 03:29 Questions for timetravel_0 with permission to post. Pamela: by the way can you tell me what it feels like to time travel? when you are in the process of doing it what does it feel like and what do you see and hear. you made mention that you had to get use to the fields. Do you see a bright flash of light? Timetravel_0: Interesting first question. The unit has a ramp up time after the destination coordinates are fed into the computers. An audible alarm and a small light start a short countdown at which point you should be secured in a seat. The gravity field generated by the unit overtakes you very quickly. You feel a tug toward the unit similar to rising quickly in an elevator and it continues to rise based on the power setting the unit is working under. At 100% power, the constant pull of gravity can be as high as 2 Gs or more depending on how close you are to the unit. There are no serious side effects but I try to avoid eating before a flight. No bright flash of light is seen. Outside, the vehicle appears to accelerate as the light is bent around it. We have to wear sunglasses or close our eyes as this happens due to a short burst of ultraviolet radiation. Personally I think it looks like your driving under a rainbow. After that, it appears to fade to black and remains totally black until the unit is turned off. We are advised to keep the windows closed as a great deal of heat builds up outside the car. The gravity field also traps a small air pocket around the car that acts as your only O2 supply unless you bring compressed air with you. This pocket will only last for a short period and a carbon sensor tells us when it's too dangerous. The C204 unit is accurate from 50 to 60 years a jump and travels at about 10 years an hour at 100% power. You do hear a slight hum as the unit operates and when the power changes or the unit turns off. There is a great deal of electrical crackling noise from static electricity. 05 November 2000 03:29 Pamela: 7.are you able to control where you go or is it random? Timetravel_0: Yes, it can be controlled. However, the distortion unit has operational limits. Imagine your path through time is through a cone. The farther away from the center of the cone, the more differences you will see in the world line. The C204 begins to "break away" at about 60 years. This means the level of confidence drops rapidly after 60 years of travel and the world line divergence increases. In other words, if I wanted to go back 2000 years and meet Christ, there is a better than average chance I would end up on a world line where he was never born. The computer units and gravity sensors "record" your trip and you are quite easily able to return to your point of origin. I am aware that research is being done on faster units with more accurate clocks. I imagine that they will be able to go back farther with a higher degree of divergence confidence. 05 November 2000 03:29 Pamela: 9.Are you able to go back to your own world line? Timetravel_0: Yes. 05 November 2000 03:29 Pamela: 10.how are you protecting yourself from radiation? it alters DNA if you dont. Timetravel_0: I'm not sure what radiation you mean. If you mean from the unit, you can see it vents X-rays and Gamma radiation out of the rear. As long as you stay away from that, you should be okay. I keep a radiation detector with me to check my environment and make sure the unit isn't "leaking". 05 November 2000 03:29 Pamela: 11.How long would you say that ultraviolet radiation lasts? about 10 seconds? and when you are in that light can you see anything around you or does the light kind of "fill up" everything and that is all you can see at the time? Timetravel_0: The light bending only lasts a second. Its like driving under a tunnel and being in total black. 05 November 2000 03:29 Pamela: 12.Do your people know where you are right now? Can you communicate with them? do you have a biological implant? Timetravel_0: No. They do not know where I am and I can not communicate with them. Interesting idea though. From their point of view, I will return almost exactly at the same moment I left. From their viewpoint, I will only have aged more than expected. 05 November 2000 03:29 Pamela: 13. after the flash of light is gone are you then in another time? what does it look like as the new time unfolds? Is it just there? or does it slowly come into view? does it fade in and out for a time? Timetravel_0: While the machine is on. Everything is black. When the machine is turned off, it is the reverse affect. It appears you are driving out from a bridge. To tell you the truth, I'm usually sleeping when the unit turns off but yes...it does appear that the world fades in from black. 05 November 2000 03:29 Pamela: 14. what happens if the device messes up? Do you end up in space? if it goes offline and shifts ? does a hole open elsewhere? Timetravel_0: Good question!!! That one almost never comes up. The hard part of traveling through time is not the bending of gravity but the plotting of your course and holding to the basic "position" in your environment. This is done through a system called VGL (variable gravity lock). Basically, the unit takes a reading of the local gravity and samples it during the "trip" in pulses. If the gravity is too far off, the unit stops or reverses itself to the last sample period where the readings were correct. If there is some sort of failure, the unit shuts down and drops out to where ever you may be. 05 November 2000 03:29 Pamela: 15. what affects are caused on the immediate area where the gravity has been distorted after you leave it and when you arrive? are there permanent effects left on the land such as electromagnetic disturbances in that area? Timetravel_0: Another good question!!! The only real physical trace is a large chunk of ground missing from the point of origin and a large pile of dirt at the destination. The gravity field surrounds a small portion of the earth under you and takes it along for the ride. There is really no way around this. 06 November 2000 16:43 Cement block…good question. The hard part of traveling to other world lines is just that. There is a system of clocks and gravity sensors that sample the environment before dropping out. Its called VGL, (variable gravity lock). If a cement block were there, the machine would “backtrack” until it sensed relative congruity to the original gravity sample. A great deal of time and effort goes into picking just the right spot since you can not physically move during a displacement. 06 November 2000 22:13 Pamela: 1. can you explain to me in detail the basic physics and mathematics behind how the machine operates? and exactly how it distorts gravity. Timetravel_0: 1) Time travel is achieved by altering gravity. This concept is already proven by atomic clock experiments. The closer an observer is to a gravity source (high mass), the slower time passes for them. Traveling at high speeds mimics this effect which = the twin paradox of faster than light travel. However, this type of gravity manipulation is not sufficient to alter your world line. The basic math to alter world lines exists right now. Tipler first described a working "time machine" through his theory of massive rotating spheres. I apologize for the web site but it was the only one I could find quickly. www.geocities.com... Certain types of black holes also exhibit the "time travel" abilities of Tipler cylinders. Kerr was one of the first to describe the dual event horizons of a rotating black hole. As with Tipler's cylinders, it was possible to travel on a "time-like" trip through a Kerr black hole and end up in a different world line without being squished by the gravity of the singularity. www.physics.fsu.edu... qso.lanl.gov... www.leonllo.freeservers.com... www.astro.ku.dk... (deleted)....................................................... The mass and gravitational field of a microsingularity can then be manipulated by "injecting" electrons onto its surface. By rotating two electric microsigularities at high speed, it is possible to create and modify a local gravity sinusoid that replicates the affects of a Kerr black hole. For those asking how come a microsingularity doesn't swallow the Earth or want to know details about the size, stability, mass, temperature and resulting Hawking radiation from such a thing.. those details I must keep to myself. 06 November 2000 22:13 Pamela: 2. can you travel to the future as well as the past? my understanding of the machine is the trip is recorded so you can get back to your original time line but what about a future beyond your time line are you able to access it as well? or does it have to be open by a future chrononaunt? Timetravel_0: Yes, you can travel into the future and it takes less energy than going into the past. 06 November 2000 22:13 Pamela: 3.I dont see the computer in the device. is it the hand held device on the side of the larger device? If so what kind of power supply does the computer work off of is it the battery as well or some type of crystal? Timetravel_0: The computer system is connected to the unit through an electrical bus. There are actually three computers linked together that take the same signals from the gravity sensors and clocks. They use a Borda error correcting protocol that checks the integrity of the data and trips the VGL system. 07 November 2000 17:18 I would equate the "future" GM distortion units to their current jet engines. The first one worked great but they can always make it better. The C204 unit uses 4 cesium clocks. The C206 uses 6 cesium clocks but they use an optical system to check the oscillation frequency. This makes the world line divergance confidence much higher. 07 November 2000 22:18 Yes, you could travel to a future that was 0.5 seconds ahead of now but not with my machine. The C204 uses the second as the basic unit of measure. The C206 may be capable of .05 sec. 08 November 2000 22:27 (5.What kind of car are you going to go back in since you sold the Chevy?) It's a 1987 4WD. The vehicle needs a strong suspension system to handle the weight of the distortion unit. 08 November 2000 22:27 (6.Are you able to take people with you in the same car back to your time or another time?) Yes. 11 November 2000 18:46 (If you change "vehical" do you have to re-calibrate the unit?) Yes. But its a function of the VGL system. A gravity baseline is taken and rechecked every thime the unit is used. A new vehicle would alter the gravity signature. 11 November 2000 18:46 (What kind of coils are used to contain, and maintain the singularity?) I am not a phycist so I can not answer that to your level of sophistication. The singularities are held in an enclosed magnetic field. 11 November 2000 18:46 Can your unit also dimensionally travel?) No. However, the longer the unit is on past a safe divergance confidence, the "stranger" the world line becomes. The unit I have is safe to about 1% for every sixty years at max power. 11 November 2000 18:56 (If your conveyence is accurate to one second then you must have a reason for picking the particular second or at least particular day or week, you did.) My goal was to reach a certain date and time which is converted into seconds for the computer to make its calculations. I do not pick the second. Its more important to have a low divergance confidence number 11 November 2000 19:11 (10 years an hour? from 2036 wouldnt that take three+ hours?? how could you survive with merly the pocket of air you caught in your vehicle's field??) Yes...that's about right but my initial trip was to 1975, not 2000. I guess its a question of how many technical details you really want or you feel I'm making up. We do take addtional 02 and the air pocket is a bit larger than you might think. 15 November 2000 14:33 (One last question, Can anybody operate the 204 unit? Or is it safe guarded by a "key of some kind? Thanks for answering. Yes, you would be welcome at my home.) The unit has two security systems to protect it from "most" people. One, it has a code that must be entered correctly. Second, and probably more effective now, the unit can not be used by anyone who can't add and subtract. 20 November 2000 17:16 (You sold your 67' when you got here? how do you expect to get back?!) The unit is portable between vehicles. It is very heavy and requires a "stiff" suspension. The unit is currently in a 4WD. 22 November 2000 20:58 Pamela: 1.What exactly would an observer see as they saw you arriving in this time? and exactly what would they see as you departed? would you just appear suddenly or slowly? would you look like a heat mirage for awhile? any light effects? or hazy misty shimmering distortion? Time travel_0- The observation of time travelers "appearing" suddenly in a world line do not happen very often. There are two cases and two points of view to consider. In the first case, the time machine does not move as it goes from one world line to another and then returns. The people watching on the original world linewould wave good bye and watch as the machine is turned on. There would be a static discharge and the air would appear to "ripple" as if it were getting denser. Then, it would stop and the machine will have appeared to have gone no where. If the machine doesn't move its position from world line to world line, the observer would not see it disappear at all. In the second case, if the machine is moved, it would disappear from the viewpoint of the observer and return in a different location based on where it was moved and turned on from the destination world line. In that case, the rippling seems to dissolve the machine and it disappears. If that happens while you are watching it leave and you expect it to return, you know it was moved or had a serious malfunction. It is actually quite dangerous to get too close to a distortion unit as it enters or leaves a world line. It vents radiation and has a very strong localized gravity field. Personally, I worry about that a great deal. 22 November 2000 20:58 Pamela:2.What is the dimension of the field around the car? How many feet out from the car would you say it goes? Timetravel_0-It can be adjusted to some degree. The CG (center of gravity) is adjustable within about 4 feet and the unit is effective about 10 to 12 feet in either direction from there. The vertical distance is quite a bit shorter and is determined by sensors in the unit. 22 November 2000 20:58 Pamela:3.approximately in inches how much of the ground is taken with you in one trip? timetravel_0-Depending on weather or not you are going forward or backward, the footprint of the unit is different. I wouldn't quite say it "scoops" up the ground cleanly. It sort of vibrates it loose and takes it along for the ride. It looks like someone raked the ground an inch or so deep with a small hand hoe or shovel. The negative ergosphere "scoops" up the front and back areas of the field. The positive ergosphere leaves a longer area near the center of mass. Its about a cubic foot of dirt spread out over six square feet or so. 22 November 2000 20:58 Pamela:4.If they put the device in a house and turned it on what do you think would happen? Timetravel_0-It might not be as destructive as you think. Depending on how close any object is to the field, it might not do any damage at all except for the floor. 22 November 2000 20:58 Pamela:5.what would happen to a bird or small animal that ran across the field right when it was producing the field to travel? Timetravel_0-It would be quickly spread out over the lateral length of the gravity field. Imagine being squished and stretched at the same time. I would imagine anything left after that would be vaporized and generate static electricity. 22 November 2000 20:58 Pamela:6.how hot would you say the temperature gets on the outside of the car while in operation? Timetravel_0-Very! hot. Depending on the power setting, 100 to 120 degrees is average. 22 November 2000 20:58 Pamela:7.is the car in drive mode when the device is activated or is it totally turned off? Timetravel_0-The car is off and the brake on. 22 November 2000 20:58 Pamela: 8.has the device been tested on ships and airplanes? Timetravel_0-Not that I'm aware of. Its important that it remain as still as possible so the gravity sensors can get a good lock. The divergence confidence would be way off if the vehicle was moving. 22 November 2000 20:58 Pamela:9.do you wear special uniforms when you time travel? what do they look like and does your group have a timetravel emblem or group name? Timetravel_0-I wear a standard civilian service uniform during instruction and training. Its sort of a cross between an army uniform and overalls. We do have a quarter master who distributes clothing appropriate to where ever we are going. There is a patch. It is round and has a graphic of a Kerr singularity (sort of looks like an eye with gravity waves around it) with two spiral paths running through it's center. One path represents the "safe" way and the other is the path to God. The bottom of the patch has my unit number along with "Temporal Recon" printed on it. However, we remove any identification and patches before we go anywhere. 25 November 2000 09:10 (What type of senser is number seven?) That sensor detects various parameters from the singularity. 25 November 2000 09:10 (Why are the four atomic clocks not shown?) There is another page that depicts the computer and clock systems. That technology is not new and not very interesting. 25 November 2000 14:03 The energy stored in the singularity is used to create the distortion fields. That energy is created in a particle accelerator. I’m not sure what you mean by “temporal turbulence”. What effect would that have that would need to be overcome? 25 November 2000 14:03 When I leave, I will return to 2036. The computer I have is expected there. I am unaware of any “true” interdimensional device available on this world line now. I would image the effects of such a device would be hard to hide. 30 December 2000 11:47 (…If I go forward on this world line, the future will not be my future. I get home by going back to 1975 before I arrived and then going forward to 2036.") A few people have asked me about this statement so I will try to clarify it. On my worldline (A) in 2036, I was given a mission in 1975. I turn my machine on and jump to another worldline (B) in 1975 with about a 2% divergence from (A). From the very point I turn my machine off on (B), I create a new worldline just because I’m there. This line can be described as (C) and started when I got to (B). I am now doing my mission on line (C) in 1975 when I discover a very a good reason to go forward on (C) and see what happened. I turn my machine on and go forward on (C) to the year 2000. When I turn it off, I start another line called (D). So from my perspective, here we are on line (D) in the year 2000. In order to go home to line (A) I must turn my machine on and go back on (D) until I reach (C) which in turn would take me back to (B) which in turn takes me to a point before I arrived on (B) then I go forward from the point I arrived on (B) back to (A). 15 January 2001 13:36 Thank you for considering the problem of returning home. You seem to have stumbled on an intuitive proof of some of the physics of time travel. You are correct, getting back to the worldline of origin is easier than picking an exact destination on a different worldline. 15 January 2001 13:36 ((The artificial singularity you travel with, you say it forms a local gravity field. Does it physically reduce the size of nearby objects during operation? And if so by how much? )) Actually, there are 2 singularities in the unit. The gravity field is manipulated by three factors that affect it in distinct ways. Adding electric charge to the singularities increases the diameter of the inner event horizons. Adding mass to the singularities increases the area of gravitational influence around the singularities. Rotating and positioning the polar axis of the singularities affects and alters the gravity sinusoid. The effects of the gravity produced by the unit do not have enough time to significantly alter physical objects within a reasonable distance from the outside of the sinusoid. No, things do not get smaller. 15 January 2001 13:36 ((If the electron injection system alters the shape of the field, would that not force the unit to accelerate through space as well as time?)) There is no relative movement in space due to three main factors. Large, kinetic energy inducing effects of the gravity field are compensated for by the interaction of the singularities. The mass of the unit and any objects inside the sinusoid do not exhibit any huge increases on the departure worldline during travel. The observed path of the traveler is obtained by changing the gravity, not by moving the vehicle. The black hole comes to you. 15 January 2001 13:36 ((The question is define "time")) To me, time has two definitions. I see time as a mathematical component of a 10 dimensional super universe. It is a variable I use to define my location and existence. I also see time as a metaphysical compromise our senses use to define the area of collective existence God has placed us in. When I can measure and sense time, I know I am not with God. 10 January 2001 23:10 ((You mentioned a divergence from time lines. How is it possible to measure such a divergence?)) The measurement for worldline divergence is an observation variable isolated to the distortion unit. An effective analogy would be a “gravity radar”. The unit’s sensors take a “snapshot” of the local gravity around the unit before a flight. During travel, this baseline is periodically checked to make sure there are no major changes in the environment that would cause a catastrophic mass failure (brick wall appearing from nowhere). The percentage of VGL divergence from one worldline to another is a calculated guess by the three computers that control the unit based on its starting point. It is useless in describing characteristics of individual worldlines. 10 January 2001 23:10 There is a bit of folklore about the first distortion driver who reaches a destination with a zero divergence. This would mean they had traveled on a spacelike trip to their own worldline of origin. This paradox is quite possible although highly unlikely. I wonder if anyone out there can take current string theory and make that one work on paper? 15 January 2001 12:04 ((…could not a TT (time traveler)basically take whatever they wanted from any time?)) There are mass limits to what can be taken back. 26 January 2001 13:32 ((Is it physically possible for you to get back to THIS time line once you leave?)) Not with the unit I have. 26 January 2001 13:32 ((You said that you traveled back in time from 2036 to 1975 with a ~1-2% divergence. You also mentioned that in your time frame a 0% divergence is sort of a myth, i.e technologically improbable.)) Yes, a “ZD” is thought to be impossible. However, consider that an exact entry point “may” not be necessary to get home. The important factor is the path, not the destination. Under multiple world theory, there are an infinite number of “homes” that I could return to that don’t have me there. The divergence for that window is somewhere near .002377%. The opinion of many senior staff and members of AboveTopSecret.com on the writings and postings of timetravel_0 a.k.a. "John Titor" is that he is a hoax, and in no way a time traveler of any type. We offer this material as part of an archive so that analysis and discussion may continue, in an effort for full disclosure and understanding [edit on 27-6-2004 by John bull 1]




posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 04:13 PM
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I can not understand how, after a war and the almost destruction of the world people have time to build or find the necessary knowledge to have any technology or even time traveling. Beats my rationality.



posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
I can not understand how, after a war and the almost destruction of the world people have time to build or find the necessary knowledge to have any technology or even time traveling. Beats my rationality.


Exactly. Apparently we are centuries away from building the technology, but from 32 years from now, we somehow build a time machine. Plus, what i have been reading, the theory of time travel is only one ticket to the past.



posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 04:34 PM
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John titor is only known within these communities.People use the excuse that they post in this community because there safe from the govt.The real reason is they would in the main media be proved a hoax alot quicker than if they released the info to people that are most likely to listen and believe.The best place to bulls**t about UFO`s is in a UFO thread and so on.



posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 04:37 PM
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Sorry, but I did a search on him on the internet and I found 44 links to his story and they are not from ATS, so he is circulating around in the web already.



posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 04:44 PM
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This all happen 4 or more years ago.One of his main prophesies comes up in the aftermath of this Presidential election(civil war).

It was time to archive all we had to make research easy for those interested especially with the expected rise in interest later this year.



posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 04:45 PM
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already?

He has been posting these since 2000, maybe before!

And the poster did not mean just ATS (in fact, in this case he didnt mean ATS at all) but other, similar conspiracy/paranormal/supernatural related message forums.

Titor was picked up with a knowing smirk by some more "serious" news sites but as the "weirdo" states, he began his very tall tales on conspiracy message boards and continued there.



posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 02:31 PM
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John Titor (or his creator )has gone to a lot of trouble with his story & photographs tremendus knowledge and research. why did he or she? do it not for money or fame, as can never admit to it. why? if not true

This guy seems to believe in time travel I have signed up what have I got to lose $10-11...... I have NO connection with this site other than signing up.

www.timetravelfund.com...


J_3

posted on Feb, 15 2006 @ 02:47 PM
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Quotes by johnny BOY titor

"there are no official olympics after 2004. We are thinking of bringing them back in 2036"



.......Turn on NBC - - They are broadcasting a TITOR DEBUNKING SHOW!



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