The many names of the Republican party, page 1

reply to post by Socratic Method

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I agree with you, they just keep changing the name or repackaging of the same product....They have been calling for smaller government for years, but that is not what is delivered to your door step...

They claim to want to lower taxes, but all they have done was to shift the tax burden from the wealthy to the middle class.

We have witnessed the complete destruction of the family farm and of mom and pop small business,yet people continue to vote for "values" issues.

Makes me wonder what the next nickname for the Republican Party is going to be once America gets fed up with them again...

Originally posted by whatukno
Some hard line right groups wants a Christian Theocracy in America. Installing what can only be described as a Christian version of Sharia Law. If allowed, they would severely limit individual freedoms, to the point that Stalin's Soviet Union would look like a utopia of tolerance and acceptance.

Agreed, I found this news story from 02 that talks about the Gallant Old Party from 1875 but in recent times its known as the Grand Old Party. Grand Old Party is what I know of it when the Republican Party was made up of mostly northern citizens.
What Does "GOP" Stand For? This is a pretty good read.

The introduction of these other nicknames are all religious in nature, fundamentalist, and of course far right. All are supposed grass roots organization. I personally think this group of people are the Greatest threat to personal liberty and freedom we face. And people keep voting for them because there candidate claims to be anti abortion, and a good Christian. However what ends up happening is in the end they are judged by there fruits, then they have to start over with a New Grass Roots movement, and preach pretty much the same thing with a new name.

At the same time, some hard line right groups want a complete Corporate Oligarchy in America, stripping all Americans of their individual freedoms and giving Corporations sole discretion over what a person can or cannot do. Basically all function of government would be taken over by Corporations the corporations would then have complete and total control over their employees. Free markets would reign supreme, and there would be no recourse for abuses in the workplace. Basically a caste structure would be created in America, people of a lower caste would never ever have the opportunity to better themselves, and the people in the upper castes would be protected from falling to a lower caste.

Now in my opinion these are what they truly are, this is the true face and objectives of the Modern Republican party. They will claim there religious values and moral, yet do nothing when the family farms all across this nation fail. They will bash people who need food stamps to feed there kids but will always offer tax breaks to oil companies, or almost any corporation. All done with a religious slant...

Really though we already are under the foot of the corporation we work for, more and more they are aloud to dictate what we do on our off time.

And we get to watch it play out again it seems.

reply to post by LDragonFire

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The American people are just too uninformed and too brainwashed in ethnocentric bigotry.

These people love to worry about the rich paying taxes yet they themselves are lower middle class [Reagan Democrats] who will again put the insane Republicans back in charge of the Senate and House.

Even though they are advocating things only the rich like and that are against the middle and lower class, such as:

Eliminating the minimum wage:

Against unions

Getting rid of the flimsy health care we have got under Obama [whereas EVERY OTHER CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS NATIONAL HEALTH CARE FOR ALL] But not here in the US where the southern and western conservatives hold their people in physic bondage enough to ALWAYS vote against their own interest

Privatizing Social Security

They just prevented a law that would punish companies that outsource American jobs

Wont support a national infrastructure bill

Voted unanimously to support Israel in an attack on Iran

Want tax cuts for the rich

Never want to cut the defense budget

And many more anti-human policies they have


The reason why they get in office is because of the ignorance and bigotry of those that support them; where they always play on their worst racial fears, and that the rich and super-rich finance their propaganda machine as they are doing now through Karl Rove and the Chamber of Commerce.

These people actually support outsourcing American jobs overseas, which alone should be enough for them never to get elected.

Also, these people, Tea Party, and other Republicans aren’t Christians. They are just ETHNOCENTRIC bigots who support anything with a white Anglo-Saxon heritage around it such as Western Christianity.

Do you really think Jesus would support these selfish people who only care for the rich and their own kind, and support wars, and never emphasize helping the poor,

Remember what Jesus said about the chances of a rich man getting into the kingdom of heaven

They defile the very name of Christ.

Originally posted by LDragonFire
I wonder why the Republican Party much more so than the Democrat Party uses so many names to describe themselves?

GOP
Christian Coalition
Moral Majority
Compassionate Conservative
And now The Tea Party?

Why the nicknames?

Also why do they all tend towards religion?

Most of these groups take a far right view on governance and social and cultural issues. These groups all of them have seen success yet none of the items that keep getting them re elected have been changed? Yet people keep voting for them....After they change the name? marketing ploy?

Yes, it is a marketing ploy, and it works on a lot of people. People tend to label things they see and experience, and once a thing has a label, the label is all that is seen, no matter what the the label does, or becomes. Go to any store, packaging is what sells, right? Product manufacturers go to great lengths to package their product so it will attract you, the buyer. It is the same with politics. I have been a fan of politics for a long time now, and the games they play are very clear to me. The Party lines are so mixed right now it is hard to say what political flavour a politician is. The battle bots are the Democrats and the Republicans, but the true agendas are hidden away, and are heard to see for the average voter. Even if the vote goes directly against the agenda, the Diabold Voting Machines can easily make, or break, an American president.


Voting by mail is another thing they are attempting to shove down our throats, check here for that.

We need to put a stop this this behaviour, and change the system, the way we vote. What we need, in my considered opinion, is a unique ID system like is on the www.ssa.gov... website. We could vote over the internet in this fashion, everyone is registered, and has a unique ID, and votes on the website for elections. We could also vote on important issues in this way, which would in fact give everyone a chance to have a say in how government is run, and it's policies.
We are THE PEOPLE, are we not?

reply to post by LDragonFire

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I'm not sure i get this thread. half of the things you list aren't names for the republican party at all. the only one that is, is The GOP.

GOP: nick name that's over a century old

Christian Coalition and Moral Majority: names the religious right has used for themselves, not a part of the RNC (is the congressional black caucus or moveon.org names for the democratic party? no.)

Compassionate Conservative: something bush called himself, not a nick name for the party (is blue dog democrat a nick name for the democratic party? no.)

And now The Tea Party?: yea, whatever

These are just organized groups that sit under the republican tent. its not a marketing ploy. the christian coalition and moral majority are christians who basically want to legislate morality, pretty true to their name. they don't keep 'changing' their name to deceive or market to pepole. the name is the Republican Party or alternatively the GOP, those other things are subsects. How you lumped 'compassionate conservative' in there is beyond me.


I guess my point is, and I mean this with no offense. If this is a serious question you have then go out and read about these different subsects to understand what their relation is to the party. Both parties have these subsects. Surely you'd admit there's a difference between neo and paleo conservatives right? our parties are broad coalitions. if this thread is a plea for knowledge then i encourage you to just google these things.

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