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NEWS: LAPD Officer Feared Suspect Had Weapon

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posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 09:54 AM
In this follow up piece to a report here at ATSNN where a LAPD police officer was caught on video beating a suspect, The other side of the story is being spoken from the man who kicked and then beat this man with a flashlight....

Full Report:

June 26, 2004 A police officer caught on videotape pummeling a suspected car thief with a flashlight said he delivered the blows because another officer warned that the man was carrying a gun, the Los Angeles Times reported Saturday.

John J. Hatfield told investigators that another officer attempting to handcuff 36-year-old Stanley Miller after a car chase Wednesday felt a metal object in Miller's pants, the newspaper said, citing anonymous sources.

Hatfield tried to subdue Miller by kicking him and striking him 11 times with a metal flashlight. The object mistaken for a gun was later revealed to be wire cutters in Miller's right front pants pocket. Hatfield's account was corroborated by two other officers at the scene, the Times reported. Officers were also concerned that Miller may have been concealing a weapon in his left hand, but they later learned he was clenching money.

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I suppose this will help explain this case of what seemed like an unwarranted beating of a man who raised his hands in surrender then dropped to his knees and was then viciously beaten by one Police Officer.

Related ATSNN News/Discussion:

LAPD Officer Caught on Video Beating Suspect

[edit on 26-6-2004 by UM_Gazz]

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 10:37 AM
There is absolutely NO reason to beat a prone, defenseless man 11 times in the head with a flashlight while delivering kicks. This is a pitiful attempt at an excuse and I don't buy it for a second. I hope the officer gets everything coming to him ... and more.

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 03:11 PM
That was really messed up for the officer to do that. The man was on the ground and there are other ways that the officer could have used to subdue the suspect.

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 08:54 PM
Just a little addition to this report just breaking... Los Angeles Police Chief will now review that department's policy of using flashlights as weapons. Of course the review was prompted by this case of a man being beaten with such a flashlight... So it must be the flashlight's fault...


Last week's beating of a suspected car thief - which was caught on videotape - has drawn comparisons to the 1991 beating of motorist Rodney King.

On Saturday, Bratton met with black clergy and community leaders to assure them that the investigation would be complete and open.``We must get at the truth, said John Mack, president of the Urban League of Los Angeles. Three officers involved in Stanley Miller's beating will be investigated to determine whether they used excessive force. A total of eight officers have been placed on desk duty as authorities investigate.

Los Angeles police are allowed to use flashlights to deliver ``distraction strikes if someone is resisting arrest.

``Im going to review that practice, that authorization, said Bratton, former head of the New York Police Department. ``Back East, we did not have similar authorization.

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Ok, Lets ban the flashlights!

Yeah that will fix things.. But hey maybe it will work.. what do we know?

When this case ends up in court and there is no doubt it will, it will be very interesting to watch how it evolves... Though this is only one incident and only one suspect and only one flashlight. It does say a lot about the LAPD.

One can only hope that people within the LAPD will learn more from this case other than to leave the flashlights in the squad car, or to make sure there are no video cameras watching.

If someone is willing to give up there is no need in beating them. This is America and we are better than this. The message this sends to any future criminal is to run and never give up... beacause they will beat you if you do.


posted on Jun, 27 2004 @ 12:14 AM
The man gave himself up. Doesn't matter what he had. The beating was a bigger crime than the stealing of the vehicle. Kicking the guy and beating him in the head with a flashlight doesn't make him any less armed.

posted on Jun, 27 2004 @ 12:52 AM
GAZZ, the problem is that even in the police you will find some scumbags, it is a fact of life, but on the overall police officers are good people.

Becoming a police officer now is a lot more complicated than it used to be, but every police station has different requirements applicants have to go through to become police cadets. It is also true that police officers go through a lot of crap, but this kind of behaviour is not accepted no matter the reason. Normally police stations make possible applicants take a polygraph appart from the background check and several other requirements to try to take good people to be police officers, but nothing is perfect, and sometimes less desirable people get through.

Now, just like most soldiers in the US Armed Forces, or any other Armed Forces, would not take advantage of the war to torture or humilitate prisoners. Most police officers would not beat up a tied up, defenseless suspect.

posted on Jun, 27 2004 @ 09:50 PM
Cops use that same lame excuse everytime something like this happens,
we thought he/she had a weapon, well ya know what thought did!
I can think of at least 3 recent events here in the Bay Area, where someone was wrongly shot because they "thought" he/she had a weapon.
Talk about thought police!

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