Originally posted by dbloch7986
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
You're absolutely right when you say people need to realize what is going on. This certainly was by design with the intention of subverting the
population into a controllable conglomerate of shared-minds. The entire system is designed to suppress free thought and freedom of action. No one
needs to take our rights away when the banks and corresponding government agencies simply make it impossible to excute them.
The entire idea of credit is a huge scam. It was invented in order to allow people to buy things the needed right now. But it was invented and
utilized by the same people that cause prices to inflate out of reach for the people that credit was loaned to. The entire consumer market has evolved
around a need for credit. Even for something as basic as a roof over your head.
Blaming the consumer for the problem is tantamount to blaming the victim for being raped.
This conspiracy, the banking conspiracy, is in my opinion the most important and significant conspiracy affecting humanity today.
Thanks for your contribution feel free to add more.
Your praise means a lot.
edit on 10/14/2010 by dbloch7986 because: typos
What most people aren't aware of is how far back the concept of debt began and what the earliest concept of debt was.
Of course in the beginning born into a pristine world where there were no consumer goods or money at all one might wonder where debt originated from.
It originated from the earliest warfare. If your tribe or village was conquered and your life was spared, you literally owed your life as a debt to
the conquering cheif, warlord of king.
This is how slavery was born. Your spared life was now forfiet to the person who spared it, and you owed your life to them, your labor and anything
you could produce.
In these times there was no currency and people bartered and traded for the things they did not have and could not produce themselves.
This led to the first forms of credit, where you might grow barley and I might make beer. I would supply you beer on account until your barley crop
came in, and then you would provide me barley in payment for the beer, I would in exchange provide you beer in exchange for the barley.
Most people had agragarian products to trade that were seasonal, so often craftsman and trademen and butchers people with year round products would
extend that to you on account until your crop came in, then you would settle accounts.
This worked pretty well, except for soldiers on long campaigns, they could produce and grow nothing of value while on the march for months at a time.
So believe it or not, the first coinage was minted to pay soldiers.
The first markets where you could use coins to buy things sprung up around soldier camps to supply them with amenities and luxuries in exchange for
During this whole period there was no such thing as interest, as you recieved on account from various merchants things you would pay for with your
crops, crafts, or slaves once they were grown, harvested, produced or acquired.
The only people who had a significant debt were slaves.
Gradually but very slowly as more tribes put down roots and built fixed fortifications the concept of debt to the state was slowly expanded.
You owed a debt to the state for providing you security and the amenities of a basic infrastructure. This debt was often thought to be held by the
ancestors and previous generations who began building these things.
You owed a debt for being born into a city state that had some wells and walls already there!
Even then for a long time free men were generally considered to owe no debt to the state.
That began to change drastically a few hundred years after the time of Christ.
Rome invented a new debt that would ensnare rich men, noble men, free men, and slaves alike.
You owe a debt for killing Christ!
Yes original sin and killing Christ! Christ died for your sins and thus you must pay for that! You owe a debt, a debt to the church and a debt to the
Gradually this concept took hold in the form of service to the state, taxation to the state, you owing your very life to the state, for accepting you
upon birth into some place within the state.
Even as you breathed your very first breath, you were now already in debt, you owed a debt to God, you owed a debt to the State, you owed a debt to
what ever nobles land you were born on within that state.
All in exchange for your first precious gasp of air and your life not being snuffed out upon arrival.
This system still exists to this day. It is what the divine right of Kings is based on, it is what the notion of the State being sovereign and you not
being is based upon.
This all developed out of a world that cost no one nothing to be born as a product of nature and live in conjunction with nature.
The debt is owed for being allowed to live, for not being killed at birth.
Liking the whole concept of debt so far? I am not.
No usury was actually frowned upon by the Holy Roman Empire. The Jews who weren't bound by Christian teachings were typically the only money lenders
of any reputed because of this. Nobles considered money dirty and unclean in fact, and would never touch it. The very rich and many of the nobles
still to this day will not phsically touch money, they have servants who do that for them.
The Knights Templar were the first Christian organization outside of the Vatican itself to get around the usury prohibition in an innovative way.
Pilgrims on the way to the Holy Land were often robbed along the way, and killed for their money. So to prevent that from happening you could deposit
your money or valuables at any Templar location throughout Europe or England and be issued a letter of credit for a like amount minus a transaction
fee. When you arrived in Jerusalem the Templars there would redeem your letter and give you a like amount of coin or tradeable items.
When it was time to go home, you could then do the same thing.
The Templar Knights became the first International Bank through this process.
As the middle ages drew to a close the practice of borrowing money primarily for military campaigns and business ventures began to take off again.
This led to the modern banking industry, and the bankers realizing that they could they themselves decide the outcome of wars, simply by denying one
warlord credit in a clutch keeping him from being able to buy weapons, and ammunition and pay his troops, and extending credit to another warlord in a
clutch so that they could do all those things.
Since the 1700's most wars have in fact been decided by the bankers. The people generally have no idea that this is the case, but this is the case.
All modern wars have in fact been decided by the bankers.
Debt and Credit in fact are about the most powerful weapons that there are on a global and national scale.
Won't help you much with the guy who's girl you just hit on, but in just about every other scenario on a grander scale it will.
In the mid 1700's a famous mathemitician named Neuman came up with a formual where he imagined on average how many resources the earth harbored in
the way of precious metals and other valuable resources and ores, and how many people it would take to extract them all, and what their rough sum
total would be.
His formula was a relatively simple one, space, times people, times emerging technology.
The goal was to produce enough people, to get at all the planet's resources, by growing a large enough population and developing the technology to
maintain it, to acquire and secure those resources.
This in part is what led to the colonization of the Americas and the systematic elimination and genocide of all the earth's pagan first nation's
Christians and those willing to convert could live and partake in the system, owing a debt of course to the state for the privilege.
Everyone else, had to die, and be displaced in order to get at and acquire and control these resources.
By the early 1900's this project was essentially done.
The bankers then decided to do away with gold and silver based currencies and to do that used the Federal Reserve Act.
In the aftermath of World War II, a war like world war I, that had been orchestrated by the bankers, and fought to the bankers desired outcome they
then made the U.S. Dollar the world's reserve currency.
Eventually attached to nothing at all, after Nixon took us completely off the Gold standard with every other nation following suit, since the early
1970's our currency itself is a instrument of debt attached to nothing of any value at all.
It is simply script for use at the corporate company store. This works because all the resources are now owned by that select group of families that
set out to acquire them all. So in essence money is just a requisition slip for some of those resources, in a world they own, run and control.
A world where you are born in debt and die in debt and are governed by notions of debt throughout.
This is how we got here, and up to this point, they have been kind enough to let people play along too, to a certain extent, like in Las Vegas.
You might get rich too! They will eventually take it away, but you might get rich at some point, in that process of acquiring resources for the
oligarchs or supporting those that do with some product or service.
Now for the bad news, and it is bad news. Nuemans mathematical plan has been accomplished and now that the resources have all been located and secured
for the most part.
THERE ARE TOO MANY OF YOU.
So a lot of you have to go. Sorry!
They are in the process of pulling all the assetts back in, divesting the people of them, to make culling the human herd more efficient and less
Are you guys really sure you want credit? I highly advise against it.