Video Proof The Sea Floor Moved....Discussion of Explosions in the Gulf...Is BP Causing Them?, page 13

reply to post by StealthyKat

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I'm fairly certain I heard an announcement BP "would", not 'will' or 'might', WOULD come back to this site. I don't think they ever left. They just managed the situation, found the right buz words & presto...no more problem with too many eyes.

Something else I've been wondering about is that damaged BOP taken by the FBI to a NASA facility. Where it has faded completely out of our sight & not a word has been said since it was 'secured'. I expected that. Still, I thought they would give the masses a little bit of a dog & pony just to show they are working hard on our behalf. Maybe since I've brought it up we will magically hear news to ease our worries...

reply to post by kno22

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Kno22, I am very sorry. I saw it briefly but was distracted by the video and went off from there.

One of the videos showed exposed hard rock beds possibly faulted or lava beds (various geological reasons). This would confirm threads I have read on the possibility of ancient volcano. I have replied to Skat on 16-10-2010 @05:49am.

StealthyKat, the faulted (and possibly lava beds) were formed millions of years ago. For lava to be extruded from a volcano, there has to be an eruption (either violent or the less violent continuous flow type). At the moment I have not seen any seismic data/ sections or heard of reported seismic activities to suggest active volcanic activities. The exposed rock outcrops is the first I have seen and it does make geological sense now what is happening here. But for hot lava volcanic activities (real magma lava), I think the USGS would have been alerting us already (hope I am right on this). But the seismic geophone (seismic reader you called it) evidence is intriguing. If BP is planting "seabed geophones" on the seabed, then I would really think we are in very serious trouble for BP to be monitoring for seismic activities here. From what I had read, the Gulf is supposed to be dormant and not tectonically active. I am not saying it isn't since we cannot be sure from the blurred picture or it could be just a piece or part of the "grouting equipment" left in place.

The existence of Magma Volcano is a very significant fact to the Macondo Blowout and continuing oil spill into the gulf. When molten magma forced its way up through the overlying older rock formations, it breaks (or cracks) the formations and by its high temperature heats up and cooled of the rocks at the vicnity of the contact. Besides thermally altering the contact zone, the fast cooling (in geological terms) also produced fractures. These cracks (faults, fractures and micro-fractures) are very similar to the often-quoted Hydraulic Fracturing / Hydrofracking that has recently been used to improve water, oil and gas flows into the wells. Because these do not conform to the horizontally layered requirement for seismic imaging (a fundamental fallacy) highly fractured rock formation are not easily detected in the seismic sections. Professional geologists relying 100% on the seismic interpretation often missed out these highly faulted gas-saturated zones which I called it Gas-Saturated Weak Sub-Formation (GWSF) at the upper formation level. (okay enough of this technical stuff).

Mud volcanoes as the name implies extrude mud (a slurry of clay, debris, water and gas). There is again another popular fundamental misconception – that mud (in its slurry form) could be liquefied from very high pressure deformation at depths (thousands of feet below seabed) and forced (squeeze) into the seafloor. Unlike molten magma, these mud slurries cannot be that hot and therefore lose their liquidity very fast. My paper in prep to the geological /scientific journal gives the technical evidence to support this. The principal agent is Gas from the deep reservoirs. Gas is mobile enough to seep through these leaking faults and fractures to the near surface.

In their migration pathways, the gas mixes with water to form an even more potent corrosive fluid. Shale and other argillaceous formation cannot withstand water and are easily eroded. So now this mud slurry of water, gas and clay flow out or eject through periodic explosions. In the latter, the near-surface vents are blocked every now and then; pressures built up until it is sufficient to blow. Very similar to what I had been discussing on the ROV videos.

So I think the recent Biloxi twin volcanoes and the Macondo Mole hill (as I termed it) could have started out as magma volcano or salt dome (different types) in ancient times (geological past) and continue to spew out mud slurry when the magma volcanic activities ceased. That’s why the hill-cones are smaller and more gentle than true volcanic structures. There might have been periodic oil or asphalt seepage through these “volcanic or salt induced pathways”. Hence some samples of asphalt as reported in recent journals are not surprising.

It is this “broken faulted geology” that is so devastating to the BP’s oil spill. BP knew and therefore formed the conclusion at the very start of the disaster that they had “accidentally unleashed an uncontrollable giant dragon from the deep”.

So my often used phrase “if they could not lick it then they had to fake it”. Apologise if it sounds offensive but that is the truth. It explains the many illogical recovery actions by BP today.

reply to post by kno22

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“HELL PIT” is an appropriate name. Here’s a posting on my newsvine column to a reader’s question.

Could you (don't be worried about panicking me) describe the worst case scenario?

Eth, I am saving this for future posting but since you asked, I will briefly touch on it. As you know, the reservoirs are capped by seal formations - mostly shale and many are structural traps (fault controlled). They are in equilibrium prior to the well reaching the reservoir. It is true that oil do not flow through faults cutting thru shale formation. The Macondo wells would not be having so many problems if the structure had been gentle and uniform. So in the worst case scenario (geological wise) as illustrated by my previous geological model, you already have a well-lubricated (freely flowing) hydraulic aquifer adjacent to the S20BC well. After flowing for at least 5 months, do you think the well that penetrated the reservoir is going to be a nice wellbore with no cave-ins?
Brine mixed with gas is a very effective erosion agent. Shale or Clay no matter how hard, cannot withstand water on contact. The gas provide the pressurised element. Given the freely lubricating flow, the well bore would have enlarged several times and new pathways permeated to the adjacent faults. The vertical structure I suspected is a Allochthonous Salt structure. It provides the initial pathway for the mud volcano to build on. The little mole hill I spoke of is the mud volcano hill built on top of the broad gentle uplifted landform.

I do not think BP was successful in the Relief well Kill at the bottom of the well. If you put 1 plus 1, you get a pretty good idea what I am talking about.

The upper formation and Quarternary Sediment are even more fragile. When all that oil get to the upper strata, more damage would be done. See my comments to Mac Mackenzie - www.facebook.com... .

Sooner or later the erosion will sets at the toes of the shelf edge escarpment. I hope a smaller submarine landslide is triggered first to awaken and warn the public. But by then it would have been too late to remedy the situation as the problems had already set too deep.

If the hydrate deposits above the stabilisation zone are as enormous as what the scientists think, the amount of methane gas vaporised by the warming oil would be a global warming problem. Let's not talk about Abiotic oil yet.
If we do not prosecute BP over the crime against humanity here, other oil companies would not sit up and tighten their failing HSE standards. The chances on another oil disaster is imminent. With so many knock-out punches coming online, you think Mother Nature stands a chance. Somebody wrote earlier that Nature would heal itself. So it is not only a question of this disaster but the implications of others to come.
#21.10 - Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:28 AM PDT

BK! I think I found proof of your grouting theory! Check this out....disregard the title and skip to the part with the ROV. It shows "explosions" coming directly from a deep fissure. This is the first video showing the source of the explosion. Then the ROV inserts a hose into the fissureand starts spraying something into it, causing another blow uo, and so on. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on this one!

reply to post by kno22

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I think they are holding it as evidence in case BP is brought to trial .....or so I heard...I'll believe that when I see it.

Good morning everyone....here is a video from this morning. NOTICE IT SAYS ATLANTIS! Still leaking and now has hydrate buildup

reply to post by StealthyKat

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In my life I've rarely found myself speachless. I'm not claiming to have always been coherent, or even right, only that I can usually find words to string together....until this mess started. Perhaps shaking my head in such constant disbelief rattles my processing unit, aka, my brain.

My house is more then 80 yrs old. It was built on land that did belong to a mining company, sits on a hill, near a medical facility that blasted out under ground tunnels more then 30 yrs ago. The house has cracks. Everywhere. Now I can fill & cover those cracks, but you know what? They come back even wider then before I started filling them. The point? No matter how much grout BP, et al, use down there, they can't fix this. Nature might take care of it over millions of years, or she could let it run it's course now. We won't see the million year fix. I doubt we're going to want to see it run its course.

The song Big Yellow Taxi is running thru my head again. 'Don't it always seem to go you don't know what you've got til it's gone'....We're never going to get the Gulf back again. I've been avoiding that probable reality for a long time now. She was lost to us the day the permits were signed.

reply to post by StealthyKat

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Skat, this is a great video. Notice the sharp shadow cast at the fissure on the seafloor. Yep, it is definitely grouting. Notice there is a break between the long shot to close up and back to long shot.

reply to post by kno22

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Sad to say, but I agree.....I have lived here all my life and it just breaks my heart. I can't tell you how many mornings I went out into the Gulf inlets before sunrise to watch the sun come up and enjoy a day of fishing. Those are some of my most cherished memories....and now it's never going to be like that again. I want BP to PAY, though it will never fix the damage they have done.

reply to post by BK Lim

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Well....now we have it on video! They think no one notices or cares...well they better think again! Did you see the video where it says ATLANTIS? Why would it say that? I think there is something going on with that rig/well too....we have seen this from time to time and then they switch it back to Macondo.

reply to post by StealthyKat

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You don't think this level of BS comes about naturally do you? Slight of hand, now you see it now you don't. That is the game they've played all along.

Atlantis has come up a few times. I watched one video, dated I think, Day 44. It's some where in there with the thousand other videos on youtube. It got lost in so much other crap, or it was never broadcast where I live. Back then the re porter voiced concerns about the Atlanis site. How can we know if they, BP, took the same short cuts, or if they fixed it? Sorry. BP hasn't given us one reason why we should take their word for anything. I'm not sure there is anyone I would believe now. They've bought off damned near everyone.

reply to post by StealthyKat

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Skat, looking at the horizontal pipe and valve, I do not think there is anything at the BOP that stretches out that long. The Tap valve seems to controlling the flow of gas/oil from one point to another. Why would that be installed on the BOP? Looks more like a permanent production installation than a temp replacement BOP that was installed recently at end of Sept. Try to look for Atlantis installation / under water facilities inspection.

If you check the background carefully, you can see "reflected zoning" in the water column radiating from the leaking source; suggesting differential density in the water. The hydrates built-up at the Valve also suggest flowing gas.

My guess is - this is not part of the BOP at the Macondo exploratory well but a seabed production facility.

WOW....here's an interesting document about BP and Atlantis, filed by an attorney....you MUST read this if you want to know the truth about this disaster in the making!
www.washingtonpost.com...

reply to post by BK Lim

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you never know they may have been dipping their toes in someone elses oil hence more than 1 location?
I would keep an eye on this thread for sure given the quake activity, because if im right what i think the whole area is a bit tricky, if any of you are local to the area be safe and keep alert.

reply to post by BK Lim

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So you think it actually was Atlantis being shown there? I really think it was, and someone just made a slip by putting the wrong name on there. I have a bad feeling about all of this.....I'm trying to look for what you suggested, but so far no luck. I'll keep looking though!

reply to post by StealthyKat

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Skat, the more I look at the data on this disaster, the more amazed I am on the number of offences BP is allowed to get away with. Almost everything we were taught to be unsafe and never-to-do things, seems to have been done by BP. It looks to me that BP is in control of this country. The Sultan of Brunei (although he practically owns the whole place including the oil beneath) don't have this much leeway in the oil exploration there. This has to be one of the 7 wonders of the Exploration World.

reply to post by StealthyKat

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It could be "Atlantis" trying to send a "coded SOS message" for help.

reply to post by jazz10

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Hi jazz....I am local to the area (New Orleans)....can you share more details?

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