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Topic started on 14-10-2010 @ 07:43 AM by Americanist

U.K. cleric: Rape is impossible within marriage

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LONDON — A leading Muslim cleric has sparked controversy in Britain by claiming that it is impossible for men to rape their wives.
Sheikh Maulana Abu Sayeed, who is president of the Islamic Sharia Council, told a website that "sex is part of marriage" and suggested that husbands who commit such acts should not be prosecuted.

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reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 07:43 AM by Americanist

Husbands 'may be made to ask forgiveness ... That should be enough'

How do these type of people carry such weight in public affairs? Where is the moral compass? Anyone?

It goes on to say:

"Clearly there cannot be any rape within the marriage," he told The Samosa website. "Maybe aggression, maybe indecent activity... Because when they got married, the understanding was that sexual intercourse was part of the marriage, so there cannot be anything against sex in marriage. Of course, if it happened without her desire, that is no good, that is not desirable."

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reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 07:44 AM by ladyinwaiting

One step forward for rapists, two steps backwards for their victims.

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 07:47 AM by Death_Kron

reply to post by Americanist

I don't even need to read the article linked, two phrases in the quoted text say it all: "Muslim cleric" & "Sharia Council"

Enough said.

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 08:01 AM by SeenMyShare

reply to post by Americanist

I'd like to ask the ladies that have been subjected to this despicable behavior what their opinion is. No, means NO!
I don't care who the man is, when the woman says no - taking what he wants by force is rape in my book.

Now for the opinionated part: When a man respects a woman who loves him there will never be a need to force the issue. When a woman respects the man who loves her there will never be a need to force the issue. Love and respect are the keys to a healthy relationship.

Muslim men do not respect nor love their women.

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 08:06 AM by Korg Trinity

This does not surprise me coming from the women hating Muslim Culture.

Rape is quite simply sex without consent. Whether you are married or not if either party does not consent then it is rape.

But then we are talking about the Muslims here aren't we?? These are a group of people whom think it's perfectly o.k. to beat up your wife and actively condone the actions if your wife should so much as answer back or have an opinion of their own....

Simply Disgusting!!

Korg.

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 08:08 AM by Alora

So then it must not be possible for a wife to rape her husband? (read: sodomy) If the woman wants it, then the husband has to lay there and take it. Rules are rules, after all

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 08:16 AM by mobiusmale

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ummm...what?

Are we talking about women using toys, or some other attachments, to "have their way" with their men? Maybe I have missed something, but is this even an issue in the real world?

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 08:17 AM by Alora

reply to post by mobiusmale

Yes, you missed something.

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 08:18 AM by Death_Kron

Originally posted by mobiusmale
reply to post by Alora

ummm...what?

Are we talking about women using toys, or some other attachments, to "have their way" with their men? Maybe I have missed something, but is this even an issue in the real world?

Your missing the point, Alora is illustrating the fact that any unwanted action against another, regardless of their sex, is wrong...

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 08:21 AM by KrypticCriminal

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Just another muslim nut who is happily given free reign in my great country. Theres being tollerant and theres being weak. Were so afraid that we might upset someone here that we freeze when ever muslim is mentioned.

We need to grow a pair and start deporting people like him.

Im offended, is anyone going to pander to my sensitivitys? Thought not!

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reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 08:22 AM by fooks

rape is penetration.

woman or man.

dezz guys are messed up.

thank you shria.

girly name, ya think?

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 08:25 AM by Death_Kron

Originally posted by KrypticCriminal
reply to post by Americanist

Just another muslim nut who is happily given free reign in my great country. Theres being tollerant and theres being weak. Were so afraid that we might upset someone here that we freeze when ever muslim is mentioned.

We need to grow a pair and start deporting people like him.

As a country I agree with you 110%, from my own personal stance, I'm not frightened in the slighest of "upsetting" one of these nut cases, it's only going to get worse in this country.

I'm not sure I want to be around in another 30 years...

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 08:32 AM by KrypticCriminal

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Thats what i mean. If the government is'nt going to stop them then who is?

Us the people?

Part of me does'nt want to be here now never mind in thirty years. I dont condone the BNP but i can certainly see why people are starting to move towards them and the EDL is it goes.

Is that what i have to do, just to have a voice in the matter. I think id rather up sticks and say bye bye blightey.

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 08:36 AM by butcherguy

The cleric's opinion is rubbish.

Married or not, if the woman says NO, that means NO.

Another example of Sharia Law that treats women as a piece of property, not much better than animals.

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 08:36 AM by Death_Kron

Originally posted by KrypticCriminal
reply to post by Death_Kron

Thats what i mean. If the government is'nt going to stop them then who is?

Us the people?

Part of me does'nt want to be here now never mind in thirty years. I dont condone the BNP but i can certainly see why people are starting to move towards them and the EDL is it goes.

Is that what i have to do, just to have a voice in the matter. I think id rather up sticks and say bye bye blightey.

Exactly, I've said on here before that I also don't condone the BNP or EDL but I've also stated why people are driven to have extreme views, this country is an absolute shambles especially with regards to it's policies and relaxed attitude towards immigration and the like.

Oh well, I'll see you on the beach in Spain, I'll be the one sipping an ice cold Fosters and reading 1984

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 09:13 AM by Unity_99

Ministers and Priests have made inappropriate comments and opinions concerning public matters for years, this is no different.

He isn't government.

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 09:15 AM by Roufas

Sex is indeed part of marriage.

Comparing using a dildo on a guy to actual penetration of your own wife is very silly.
Rape does not necessarily requires penetration as the definition says:

rape 1 (rp) n. 1. The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse. 2. The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction. 3. Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice.

Forcing someone to any sexual act is rape, be them male or female (although our feminist society does not care very much about that...)

Of course I am against any kind of "rape", but seriously, if you do not want to have sex with your husband, and want to keep denying him, just divorce him already, because there is obviously something wrong in that relationship (whoever fault it is).

Then be a happy single person.

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 09:30 AM by jexmo

Originally posted by Americanist

U.K. cleric: Rape is impossible within marriage

www.msnbc.msn.com

LONDON — A leading Muslim cleric has sparked controversy in Britain by claiming that it is impossible for men to rape their wives.
Sheikh Maulana Abu Sayeed, who is president of the Islamic Sharia Council, told a website that "sex is part of marriage" and suggested that husbands who commit such acts should not be prosecuted.
(visit the link for the full news article)

Absolutely disgusting. And to think they want us to go the way of Islam, yeh right. He should be sent back to his own country where, sick of hearing this sort of sh*t coming from these so called muslim clerics.

reply posted on 14-10-2010 @ 09:37 AM by mcrom901

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