The United States Needs The Green Party!

I'm leaving the Demowhimps and the Republicrooks behind in the dust! It's time to go Green and feel good. Who's with me on this? The Green party is for the Earth and our country.
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Ideology

The Green Party of the United States of America emphasizes environmentalism, non-hierarchical participatory democracy, social justice, respect for diversity, peace and nonviolence. Their "Ten Key Values," which are described as non-authoritative guiding principles, are as follows: 1. Grassroots democracy 2. Social justice and equal opportunity 3. Ecological wisdom 4. Nonviolence 5. Decentralization 6. Community-based economics 7. Feminism and gender equality 8. Respect for diversity 9. Personal and global responsibility 10. Future focus and sustainability The Green Party does not accept donations from corporations. Thus, the party's platforms and rhetoric critiques any corporate influence and control over government, media, and American society at large.

Can't they get any better here? Yes! They have Ralph Nader.

Reply to post by ImAnAlienOnMyOwnPlanet

Something tells me all of that "social justice" stuff just translates into more authoritarianism. Ideas are nice and all but where is the plan for implementation? Is it void of control and authoritarianism? Otherwise it's just more of the same.


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This party is the real deal! Check it out and let it take over you mind buddy.
Once you go Green you go Green.

They have an agenda and their own mission .. just like the dems and republicans.
"Social Justice" = spread the wealth
"global responsibility" = spread the wealth and blame the USA for the worlds woes.

Both of those will end up costing the American taxpayer.

The Green Party is influenced by corporations ... GREEN corporations .. Al Gore's faux-humans caused global warming so we gotta' all go green corporations. Those companies, and the people behind them making money, want everyone to buy into the Green party mantra so they can make more money.

The Green party is just as intense in their own way as the dems and republicans.

They just haven't had a big enough platform to preach from yet.

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More of the same authoritarian trash:

1. We support the ‘Brady Bill’

1. We call for a universal basic income

3. The growing inequities in income and wealth between rich and poor;

Seems like just another tyrant. When you agree with a tyrant it all sounds nice and sunshine and flowers but you're still living as a slob under somebody elses thumb.

Does it really make you happy when "massa" lets you have seconds on the slop?


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"Social justice and equal opportunity" Sounds like the same game that brought this country to where it is now. We don't have a collective soul,we are and should be responsible for our own actions. Social justice is the "Robin Hood" of the socialist movement. The problem being that those who are robbed are usually not the demons they are portrayed to be.. Common people working hard to make a better life for their family.is that demonic?
Equal opportunity that's just a nice way of saying that the unqualified or under qualified are moved ahead of the pack. It's simple,you don't hire people into positions because you feel sorry for them. You want to hire the best candidate for the job for your company's benefit. The stronger the company the more apt it is to grow and prosper. Allowing you to hire more people. That is affirmative action !!!

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The Green Party is influenced by corporations ... GREEN corporations .. Al Gore's faux-humans caused global warming so we gotta' all go green corporations. Those companies, and the people behind them making money, want everyone to buy into the Green party mantra so they can make more money.

Wiki link

The Green Party does not accept donations from corporations. Thus, the party's platforms and rhetoric critiques any corporate influence and control over government, media, and American society at large.

Anything is better than that rep/dem party combo which is governing you for so long. Even this. There is nothing wrong with going green and or social democracy (look at scandinavia). The only thing I would be not sure about this party is immigration policy. Letting in another countless hordes of poor and uneducated cheap labor illegal and legal immigrants in the name of "diversity" and multi-culti bandwagon, or more outsourcing is the last thing western world and its economy needs.

Too many enviro-whackos in this Party. I'll pass.

There goes that term "Social Justice" again. Any group bringing this up, is up to no good.

5. DECENTRALIZATION
Centralization of wealth and power contributes to social and economic injustice, environmental destruction, and militarization. Therefore, we support a restructuring of social, political and economic institutions away from a system which is controlled by and mostly benefits the powerful few, to a democratic, less bureaucratic system. Decision-making should, as much as possible, remain at the individual and local level, while assuring that civil rights are protected for all citizens.

Doesnt sound like authoritarianism (which is centralization).

OP

I think you have learned a wonderful lesson in ATS

The corporate guard is on duty 24/7 - you have to accept everything around you as it is - unless you can vote for it

Originally posted by FlyersFan
They have an agenda and their own mission .. just like the dems and republicans.
"Social Justice" = spread the wealth
"global responsibility" = spread the wealth and blame the USA for the worlds woes.

You know what's funny?

The wealth has been spread most of all by your boys - the biggest wealth transfer in history, your complaint is rather foolish given the reality of your charge.

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In how few peoples hands would like the wealth to remain?. I'm pleased that big shots like yourself have your comfortable wealth, but its the majority of the worlds population living in poverty that I care about.

I voted Green in the 2010 General Election here in the UK. They seem a bit far to the left for America though.

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Hand some of those Somalian refugees a few hundred dollar bills and see if it helps.

Money has little to do with the suffering by what we would refer to as poor.

Take a few hundred million from Soros and hand it to Camden, NJ. You'll just get some shiny rims and expensive guns rolling and killing.

People seem to think cutting a few checks or playing robin hood to create some artificial balance will solve problems. Reality says differently. Time to let the fantasy go already.

I recall a town in Oregon in the 90's where everybody got a free bike. Wasnt long before neighborhood kids started stealing bikes. Sure they already had one but so what? Now they could have two and have an excuse to beat the crap out of the neighbor kid for street-cred.

Same thing happened in New Haven, CT with the "every student gets a laptop" crap. The ones that werent stolen outright for the sake of stealing were pawned by the kid who it was assigned to.

Crimes and assaults arent about the money or the property. Theyre about the power and the thrill.


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I'd say there's probably a mix of both - some people will definitely commit crimes just for the hell of it and it is simply not possible to eradicate crime altogether, but some people commit crime because they have no other way to make ends meet.

Last time I checked the Green Party advocated basic income only for US citizens, so comments about "somalian refugees" or "majority of the world population" are a bit off topic.

Basic income is far better than current system, because people have greater incentive and motivation to work - now, if you work, you loose the benefits, so unless you get paid really well, its far better for you to stay on benefits. With BI, you wont loose anything. Also, with BI we can abolish minimal wage law, since it would not be needed anymore. That would lead to creation of new cheap labour jobs, which is what current labour market oversaturated with unemployable underqualified people needs most.

Originally posted by Maslo
Last time I checked the Green Party advocated basic income only for US citizens, so comments about "somalian refugees" or "majority of the world population" are a bit off topic.

Basic income is far better than current system, because people have greater incentive and motivation to work - now, if you work, you loose the benefits, so unless you get paid really well, its far better for you to stay on benefits. With BI, you wont loose anything. Also, with BI we can abolish minimal wage law, since it would not be needed anymore. That would lead to creation of new cheap labour jobs, which is what current labour market oversaturated with unemployable underqualified people needs most.

Where does this "Basic Income" come from? Does it origonate at the same place welfare does? Or does it fall from the sky like manna from heaven? It always comes back to taxing some to supply wealth to others. Doesn't the thought of being a ward of the state without personal responsibility turn your stomach? Where would your feeling of self worth for being a productive member of society come from?

Greens are the way to go.

I voted for them in the Australian elections not too long passed. They recieved 14% of the vote, won their first lower-house seat, and doubled their representation in the senate (up to 9) and gained the balance of power, and have helped form a minority Labor government.

Anyone with a brain would vote Greens IMO.

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Crimes and assaults arent about the money or the property. Theyre about the power and the thrill.

 

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Thats not categorically true - I think you are talking about wannabes

I grew up in a very bad neighborhood - I saw a good deal of blood for food money or lunch tickets

I will not say that there isn't tons of abuse, but your assumptions are not gospel

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Where does this "Basic Income" come from? Does it origonate at the same place welfare does? Or does it fall from the sky like manna from heaven? It always comes back to taxing some to supply wealth to others.

Of course from taxes. And I have no problem with reasonable taxation. Basic income would be really BASIC, just that you can pay for your basic needs with little to spare. If you couple BI with negative income tax so richer people would gradually get less nad ultimately zero BI, and save in another areas of the overgrown state, the taxation required to pay for it would actually be less than current. Keep in mind that it will be IN PLACE of current inneficient welfare. If I have time I am going to write a thread about this BI+NIT system., so you can see what I mean.

Doesn't the thought of being a ward of the state without personal responsibility turn your stomach?

No, I think society providing everyone of its citizens with basic needs to survive is a beautiful and noble idea. Try to ask very poor or homeless people that question.

Where would your feeling of self worth for being a productive member of society come from?Where would your feeling of self worth for being a productive member of society come from?

Certainly not from fear that if I suddenly loose my means of income I would be screwed.